F16, Gripen - Make In India Single Engine Aircraft - News and possibilities

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    Good Day!
     
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    It clearly means that if we go for SAAB , we will get
    1. Licence to assemble them in India .
    2. 3rd Party Systems will have to be imported as Assembled or Knocked Down Kits.
    3. We will not get TOT on Engine , AESA, Components of Avionics/Electronic Warning/Warfare system which are from 3rd party.
    4. The level of indigenous content will be limited to 66% of the Airframe only.
     
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    Guys, F-16 and F-18 are officially dead.

    Hillyby cac and cakket supporters of Trump have launched a campaign to stop transfer of F-16 assembly line to India, and given Trumps propensity to pander to them, NO F-16 or 18 is coming.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-giants-look-to-move-production-to-india.html
    http://aclj.org/national-security/p...jobs-and-defense-technology-giveaway-to-india
    http://www.newsmax.com/Newsmax-Tv/tom-tancredo-india-fighter-jets-military/2016/12/06/id/762551/

    Fools do not understand that if assembly line is not shifted to India, India would not buy F-16. If India does not buy F-16, its assembly line would eventually be closed.

    With white nationalist tweeple framing policy of USA ,with US president himself gathering his "facts" from twitter, next 4 years in USA would be full of fuckkery.
     
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    Well done then, prepare to close down the factory anyway! lol. What these reporters fail to understand is that IAF is not dying to purchase their planes and they are welcome to shut down the plants and send their employees back home unemployed.

    I'm surprised to witness alot of voice from nowhere rising up all in the same week, did SAAB manage to find empty pockets in US media too?

    Good Day!
     
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    Gripen News is a blogger/twittos not SAAB related (directly) nice guy btw.
     
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    In does not need too much of "pocket filling" when your opponent is so dumb. Just stoking of ego with phrases like "Lockmart is transferring their glorious whitey tech to those inferior brownies" would do. And with a president who is not shy of wrecking his own company like Boeing ,by overstating contract value by 3 times, just because white nationalist websites from which he takes his talking point has overstated value of planes for dramatic effect, is certainly not going to let go to make another show of his populism.
     
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    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-giants-look-to-move-production-to-india.html

    You really shouldn't hope much in terms of TOT from US companies. Fighter sales are too high profile for the public to ignore, and Trump got elected on the promise to put an end to the outsourcing of US jobs and skills.
     
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    One could wonder which SAAB export wasn't rigged (except the one where BAE filled pockets for SAAB)
     
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    http://www.telegraphindia.com/1161211/jsp/nation/story_124117.jsp#.WE6zUNJ950w


    New Delhi, Dec. 10:
    The US and India are set to shortly announce a "signature, big-ticket" project that will symbolise the finalisation of India as a "major defence partner", senior officials involved in the talks have said.

    US defence secretary Ashton Carter was in New Delhi this week on a farewell visit and met defence minister Manohar Parrikar for the seventh time in two years.

    Officials would not describe the "signature project". One official simply said "it flies".


    This has led to speculation that Boeing and/or Lockheed Martin would be partnering an Indian entity to set up an assembly line for F/A-18 Super Hornet or F-16 Fighting Falcon combat jets.

    Although this seemingly goes against the incoming Donald Trump presidency's stated aim of checking the flight of manufacturing and jobs from the US, officials assess that if the project is dovetailed into the "Make in India" policy, it would generate more jobs in both countries.

    The project would be under the Defence Technology and Trade Initiative that was launched by former Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and President Barack Obama in 2012.

    It has now expanded to include seven joint working groups on jet engine technology; aircraft technology; naval systems; air systems; intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance; chemical-biological protection systems, and other systems.

    As the Obama administration phases out, it is highlighting the growth in defence cooperation with India. Since 2008, US-India defence trade has increased from about $1 billion to more than $15 billion.

    India has procured 13 Lockheed Martin C-130J Hercules aircraft, 10 C-17 Globemasters and 12 P-8 Poseidon from Boeing. It has also contracted 22 AH 64 Apache attack helicopters and 15 CH-47 Chinook helicopters.

    Earlier this month India had contracted a deal worth $732 million dollars for 145 M777 ultralight howitzers from BAE Land Systems.

    None of these purchases is wedded into the "Make in India" initiative. But the howitzers would involve an investment in a Mahindra firm for an "Assemble, Integrate and Test" (AIT) facility.

    India and the US are also considering expanding the Malabar naval exercise. This year Japan was included in the war games to make it a trilateral exercise. Now the three countries are in talks with Australia to make it a quadrilateral exercise.

    New Delhi has been hesitant about war games involving multinational forces since a 2007 exercise involving five navies was held in the Bay of Bengal.
     
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    Can anyone invite ribko of sirkosky here ?
     
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    How many more fighter type for IAF??:dog::cheers:
     
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    Air chief arup raha confirmed on "Walk the Talk" that IAF is looking to procure another aircraft apart from RAFALEs in the MII category but did not confirm if it would be in light or medium weight category.

    From what I have read

    More RAFALEs would come under MII category. He confirmed that procuring more RAFALEs makes sense as RAFALEs are already being procured.

    Only Tejas MK1A would be procured in good numbers (and Not LCA hence the current LCA production rate is slow).

    If LCA MK1A goes kaput then those numbers would result in additional RAFALEs under MII and non-RAFALE MII fighters. This is the reason why IAF is not committing on the light or medium weight categories yet.
     
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    I had confirmed this one year ago that F-16 deal is tied to NSG membership. Now that the rules for accepting new NSG members have been framed, F-16 deal would go through along with India's NSG membership.


    Another line of single engine aircraft to be made in India: Manohar Parrikar

    IANS | Last Updated: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 - 23:23

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    New Delhi: Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar on Tuesday said a new line of production for single engine fighter jets will be started in India under the Strategic Partnership model.

    At a press conference on Tuesday, the minister said that discussions on Strategic Partnership are in the final stage and are likely to be concluded by the end of January.

    "The second line of single engine aircraft is also required for which we are thinking of using the Strategic Partnership soon once the chapter is finalised. During the current year, the decision, tendering and closure should tentatively be over," Parrikar said on Tuesday.

    Asked about the Strategic Partnership, the minister said: "I think it is in final stage... There are few issues that need to properly recorded. I think we have done a good job and I think the strategic partner is likely to be done by the end of this month. We are meeting sometime next week and expect results very soon."

    Parrikar dismissed reports of India thinking of buying more Rafale fighter jets apart from the 36 aircraft that India bought from France under a government to government deal.

    This comes shortly after former Air Force Chief Air Chief Marshal Arup Raha, at a press conference days before his retirement said the 36 Rafale jets bought by India were not enough and more aircraft were needed in the medium weight category.

    Raha had also said that India needs at least 200 more fighter aircraft in the next ten years.

    Talking about the indigenous Light Combat Aircraft Tejas, Parrikar said one line of production is presently operational and the capacity will be increased to produce 16 aircraft a year.


    First Published: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 - 23:23

    http://zeenews.india.com/india/anot...e-made-in-india-manohar-parrikar_1964113.html
     
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