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F16, Gripen - Make In India Single Engine Aircraft - News and possibilities

Discussion in 'Indian Air Force' started by Averageamerican, Sep 30, 2016.

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  1. Satendra kumar

    Satendra kumar FULL MEMBER

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    Saab and Adani group with Indian private companies should forge together for production of Gripen E,as one of the mordern and finest fighter jets with latest technology also enchancing central governments make in India initiatives and policies.
     
  2. Sancho

    Sancho Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    http://www.livemint.com/Industry/fO...-Wallenberg-holds-talks-with-govt-on-set.html
     
  3. Picdelamirand-oil

    Picdelamirand-oil Lt. Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    Saab plans Gripen ecosystem in India
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    Saab and its Indian partner Adani held an event in New Delhi on 31 October, intended to build industrial alliances in support of the Swedish group’s bid to supply its Gripen E combat aircraft to the Indian Air Force (IAF).

    Saab said that the ‘Gripen-India partnership summit’ was geared towards “creating an industrial ecosystem to develop and produce [the] Gripen in India”. Saab has offered the aircraft to meet the IAF’s single-engine fighter requirement.

    The deal is framed around a localised production requirement, and could be worth about USD12 billion as the IAF seeks to procure up to 150 aircraft to replace its ageing Russian MiG-21 and MiG-27 fighter aircraft.

    To support its localised production proposal, Saab said the summit brought together international Gripen partners – including Honeywell, Leonardo, Harris, and Cobham – and more than 100 Indian suppliers that “Saab and Adani believe can add value to the offering for India”.

    Saab added, “This is to start shaping an eco-system for Gripen in India in preparation for the single-engine fighter selection process.”

    The summit was held just two months after Saab and Adani announced their partnership to jointly bid for the IAF’s single-engine fighter requirement.

    Saab said that it would endeavour to transfer design and manufacturing capabilities to Adani under the collaboration, with the goal of enabling the production of systems in India and promoting general development of the country’s defence industry.

    Upon announcing the partnership with Adani, Saab’s president and CEO Håkan Buskhe said, “We are committed to the India-Sweden relationship, and in bringing the latest technology and skills to India. Our plans in India are to create a new defence ecosystem that would involve many partners, vendors, and suppliers. To achieve this, we need a strong Indian partner who can help create the framework for the infrastructure and eco-system to come into place.”


    http://www.defencenews.in/article/Saab-plans-Gripen-ecosystem-in-India-444283
     
  5. dadeechi

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    Trump, Modi to discuss defence, trade on sidelines of E. Asia summit
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    PTIA file picture of Prime Minister Narendra Modi with US President Donald Trump, at the White House. Trump will be pushing hard to sell F-16 fighter jets to India

    Washington peeved with slow progress on $2-billion drones deal for Indian Navy

    NEW DELHI, NOVEMBER 3:
    Billion-dollar defence deals and addressing the trade deficit will be topping US President Donald Trump’s agenda as he gears up for a meeting with Prime Minister Narendra Modi on November 13 on the sidelines of the East Asian Summit in Manila.

    The meeting is taking place at the behest of the White House even as President Trump is embarking on his Asia tour in an effort to nudge his allies to build pressure against North Korea and its nuclear arsenal. This is Trump’s first Asia trip as US President.

    Although Trump will be visiting China, Japan, South Korea, the Philippines, Vietnam and Hawaii, he is not coming to India, which is why he is meeting Modi separately.

    However, with Modi the US President has a different agenda. Both leaders will be meeting after a span of four months.

    The Trump administration is believed to be upset with the “reluctance” of the Indian government in concluding the talks for buying 22 Sea Guardian drones, manufactured by General Atomics, for an estimated $2 billion for the Indian Navy, sources told BusinessLine.

    The deal was announced by Trump after his meeting with Modi in June at the White House. This was done in recognition of India as a ‘Major Defence Partner’ by the US government.

    Deal stuck
    But since then there had been no progress in the deal, which has upset the US administration. Even during the successive visits to India first by US Secretary of Defence Jim Mattis and US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson the deal has not yet been concluded.


    Apart from this, America is keenly watching the progress in the $25-billion single-engine fighter jet deal of the Indian Air Force. Trump is expected to aggressively push for the sale of F-16 fighter planes by Lockheed Martin for the deal, sources said.

    According to sources, Trump is throwing his weight behind these deals as he sees them as an option to address the $30-billion trade deficit that US has with India.


    The issue of trade deficit turned out to be a “significant issue” during the recently concluded US-India Trade Policy Forum that was held between US Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer and Commerce and Industry Minister Suresh Prabhu.

    Both leaders will also be discussing the upcoming Global Entrepreneurship Summit (GES) to be held from November 28-30, which will be attended by the US President’s daughter Ivanka Trump.

    http://www.thehindubusinessline.com...sidelines-of-e-asia-summit/article9942686.ece
     
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  6. PARIKRAMA

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    $25Bn is still lesser than actual money to be spent..

    And that too for a max 114 jets..


    @Picdelamirand-oil @vstol jockey

    PL recall the cost and.performance expectation versus Rafale and what's the reality.

    Parrikar wanted a good thing but look at how MMRCA redux shows what's the reality. Should fire all those bureaucrats who said SE jets will.be 66% cost of Rafale
     
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    i don t want Ford at the cost of BMW, better to enjoy BMW itself..

    will there be any ToT that SE MII brings that Rafale deal doesn t ?
     
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    Let us wait forLCA MK1A. Lot of things depend on how it shapes out.
     
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    @PARIKRAMA keenly waiting for your source based news on the SE requirement. High level meetings, offerings, tech transfer issues etc.
     
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    There is a big push to kill LCA MK1A itself after successful scrapping of LCA MK2.
     
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    LCA MK1A will never be killed. It is likely to emerge much stronger than what everyone expected it to be.
     
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    Hint:

    Why do you think RFP is not being issued for the SE fighter?

    This deal was supposed to SP model where the GoI/MoD needs to first identify the Indian companies which could be invited as prime vendors to manufacture the aircraft in India with the help of technology transfer from foreign manufacturers of the platforms chosen by the MoD. The process of identifying the Indian companies by MoD has not even begun but we already have LM tying up with Tata and SAAB tying up with Adanis.

    It is very apparent to see who is driving whom.

    There is big push to go for a G2G deal under DTTI.
     
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    dadeechi Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    I have responded on the LCA thread to avoid hijacking this thread.
     
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  14. Sancho

    Sancho Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    That figure is as much a speculation, as the article above it, that claims 12 billion. So don't get hyped up by media speculations.

    Also don't forget that it's not just the procurement cost, operational costs obviously play a role too, since they are not planing for the minimum of 126 x MMRCAs anymore, but 200 to 250.
     
  15. Sancho

    Sancho Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    If you can afford it, definitely go for the BMW, but you need to be able to pay for it's fuel, repairs and insurance too, not just the procurement cost.
    Not to mention that in this case, you need a fleet of cars, not just 1 or a few, so can you afford the needed numbers of BMWs and to operate them?
     

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