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F16, Gripen - Make In India Single Engine Aircraft - News and possibilities

Discussion in 'Indian Air Force' started by Averageamerican, Sep 30, 2016.

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  1. thesolar65

    thesolar65 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    @dadeechi @PARIKRAMA @Abingdonboy @randomradio @Gessler @Grevion and others.

    Our Private players are slowly but steadily catching up on howitzers, surface combat ships, submarines (if you take L&T), but not Planes or small arms. Why can't we offer some kind of prizes like google's lunar X prize for private players to develop some of those. I know they will have to do it from scratch, but there are also so many retd. DRDO, GTRE or OFB, HAL staffs who have retired but some who are still having heart burn that their idea was not taken into some decision and the project failed.

    They still have that "junoon" inside them to make something for India. Salary is not a problem for them, but the challenge. If you give one advertisement, many disgruntled from the existing staff will also leave service and join.

    What's your take? Just my two cent thought.:mrgreen:
     
  2. thesolar65

    thesolar65 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    Its OK. What about my above post?
     
  3. Aqwoyk

    Aqwoyk Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    On that.....
    We don't do the projects in mission mode like chinese do but in pride mode to develop working concepts or lab that's why there are delays or the projects are rejected by our Forces .
     
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    Defence forms a part of Indo Russian ties and if one sees larger picture, Trade, tourism, energy (remember Sakhalin) industry forms larger part of Indo Russian trade as compared to Defence which usually take the limelight.
    Indo Russian co-operation on 6 reactors (2 in operation, 2 in construction and 2 under negotiations) at KKNPP and 6 more in Andhra happens to be one of the largest such agreement anywhere globally.
    Russia too knows this well that supplying even a squadron or two of fighters to Pakistan will do irreparable damage to these ties and in an environment where so many countries are desperate to take place hitherto held by Russians.
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    Secondly Russia would want itself to see doing anything which weakens BRICS.
    We can have as much speculation as we want, truth is even if Pakistan had money, Russia won't sell them anything.


    @PARIKRAMA @vstol jockey @Hellfire
     
  5. Ripcord322

    Ripcord322 Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    We have Such a trade deficit with Russia
    It's a 2:1 Ratio....Surely There are more opportunities....
    10 More Nuclear Reactors...Cool...


    Well...This is a very very complex Topic.....I wouldn't generalise anything.....
    There is also the 'indirect factor'...The PRC has many weapons based on Soviet/Russian Tech...The Tech (or at least some part or iteration of it ) might eventually end up in Pakistan...
     
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    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    I do not foresee any kind of serious weapon sales to Pakistan by Russia. They know that Pakistan's days are numbered and count down has started.
     
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    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    This is what happens when you have government which is Indian and not the one which is controlled by Vatican.
     
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    Giving prizes won't help, development costs are too high. Or your prize is going to have to be a billion dollars worth at least.
     
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    Guynextdoor Lt. Colonel SENIOR MEMBER

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    yeah bruh, it will screw the deal the vatiacan signed after spending years looking for fraud and not finding one.........;)
     
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    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    You surely are "Back in Action"
     
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    Grevion Professional Think Troll IDF NewBie

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    The retd. DRDO, GTRE and OFB guys won't fit in the Work culture of the private entities. The babudom of the PSUs has a strong influence over their work ethics.
    The govt needs to stop the partial behavior with the private sector companies while issuing tender and awarding the contracts. Until we have equal opportunities for all the private players out there our dreams of a budding private defense/aerospace industry will remain a pipe dream.
     
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    Guynextdoor Lt. Colonel SENIOR MEMBER

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    was never out of action my friend :)
     
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    Have you read the book God's Banker. If not, you should try it.
     
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    We have a Special Russian Vessel , specially meant for SSBN support activities at Vizag supporting Arihant to achieve its tests and other objectives.

    This itself says everything . There is no comparable parallel to this in the world.


    Russia has sold Mi17s , T80 parts , T55 tanks, and many other things to Pakistan Directly , but it was just that it was never highlighted.

    Russia would surely maintain that level of cooperation with Pakistan , but it cannot do anything against our interests.

    Even under Chinese pressure. Because China will not buy from Russian firms , what India buys.

    Recently Russia has some big deals with many other, like Algeria , Venezuela etc , and it was the reason it was not that flexible with India , now that the deals have been completed , they again have no one but India as the customer.
     
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    On that note search about Rothschild - it owned East india Company, made major wealth of Indian Gold stolen & on First & 2nd world war, operating both sides - owns all World major News channels including Reuters, Washington post etc, made super rich in inside trading in early part of history (who ever controls flow of information controls world & stocks), owns majority of world private banks, including large part of US Fed, black money park secret banks in UK & Swiss etc. Infact only 4 small Dictator run small countries, in which it doesnt own banks & deals. All world govts consult it for major deals & they are commonly & famously called the 5%
    It owns 1000s of companies & these companies own so much more etc. huge crazy chain. Valued in Trillions of $ & more.. Owns most oil drilling rights & wines & liquor. (all basic things required by humans)
    Damn so much more left ---- do your own research!!!
     
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