FC-1/JF-17 Thunder Thread

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    Yes. Get Western equipment and it's around $45 million or more.
     
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    do u really think ANY Western equipment will ever be "sold" to pak or chikis..... they will of course make copies of it...

    so only chiki stuff can be added & what pak can pay (soft loan) has already been put in jf 17.

    so any hope of any improvement on block 1 to 2 is a flat 0.

    lets wait & see what block 3 (if any) will be like.... say in 3 years.

    i think the best pak can do is pick up all the 2nd hand F 16 from world over (if US permits)that they can pay for, this way they can have the "latest" tech. a/c in hand.
     
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    Electronically scanned by mechanically steered. AESA is available but there is some issue with the cooling system - will be integrated in the next block. The approach with JFT is that once Block-II starts to get integrated the Block-1 units will be upgraded to Block-2 standard.
     
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    How does JF17 get 3000lb of extra capacity without changing the engine or aircraft structure ????

    Some alien stuff related to anti gravity ???
    are Pak scientist working with US in Area 51 ???

    Jokes aside AESA , which one ???? No.of TR modules ???? Range ???? Power in kw???

    Also any structural changes to increase the lift or the only one is IFR probe ???
     
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    o man .....


    we have lost the best fantasy man on the forum..... @ Tailchopper

    he has leaked the BEST & TOP secret details of all the PAF aircraft.

    3000 lb of extra capacity is a in build capacity right under the BUTTS of the pilots ... which they fill up the moment they hear or detect the presence of IAF.
     
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    That doesn't make sense. What is mechanically steered? A picture of the antenna will solve the problem.
     
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    they :terrorist:physically put their hand in the nose & steer it .........simple;)
     
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    The Dish is mechanically steered. but the radar scans electronically. The AESA on other other hand scans electronically as well as contains digital beam steering. i.e AN/APG-80
     
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    If you care to read (provided if you can read english) the excerpt i provided from CA.NET, you'll get your answer. The KLJ-VII details are yet not very clear. So far we only know that its an Escan radar with a Swashplate.
     
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    APG-80 is an AESA. So is KLJ-7 an AESA too?

    [​IMG]

    If this is KLJ-7, then it is as far away from AESA as a car is from an aircraft.
     
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    In India there are lot of Govt. & private Institutes that provide good education not guns & suicide vests like your's.

    Now about the radar do you know what PLAAF fighters use this radar.
     
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    This is V-I
     
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    I know that. But what you have stated for the new version of KLJ indicates it can only be PESA or AESA. Only these radars come with electronic scanning.

    The Bars is an all axis electronic scan array. It scans both azimuth and elevation electronically. But it also has a gimbal to move the antenna face around. This is the PESA version.

    The AESA version of Bars will come with gimbal, so it isn't a fixed radar.

    RBE-2 is PESA, but doesn't come with a gimbal attachment. So the antenna is fixed.

    The F-22's APG-77 is also an all axis electronic scan array, but it comes without the gimbal, so it is fixed.

    So these are four different types of radars. And if JF-17 claims its radar is capable of electronic scan, it has to be one of the four.

    There are other older kinds of arrays which are electronically scanned in one axis and mechanically scanned in another. These are extremely old radars, and there are none when it comes to airborne fighters. But even these have individual elements, like AESA and PESA.

    So it is very simple. The new KLJ-7's antenna HAS to look like either the Bars or APG-77 in order to survive the electronic scan claim. Or else it is just another mechanical radar.
     
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    why the handles are placed in the antenna ?
    some sort of cover or temporary hand grip :hmm:
     

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