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Fighting a myth - the su-30mki

Discussion in 'South Asia & SAARC' started by turkish, Jul 23, 2011.

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  1. Sanjeeb Bose

    Sanjeeb Bose Lieutenant SENIOR MEMBER

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    PAF is very professional no doubt about it... and definitely a very formidable opposition... but the main disadvantage will be on shear numbers between IAF & PAF.. If I am not wrong IAF has around 150 SU-30 MKI which will be very formidable + adding at a rate of 28 yearly.
     
  2. A haseeb A

    A haseeb A Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    I have a question...

    Suppose there is a war-like situation b/w India and Pakistan...and IAF is fuuly ready to take on PAF...
    What if China threatens to get involved or moves a couple of squadrons along the border? Wont the IAF be forced to appoint some aircrafts (say 150-200) along the Chinese border?
    Won't this decrease the numerical superiority of IAF against PAF to some extent?
     
  3. Skull and Bones

    Skull and Bones Doctor Death Staff Member MODERATOR

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    Since our move against China will be defensive, so we'll move all the interceptors(Mig-21s, LCA and maybe Mig-29s) along the Chinese borders. And Strike aircrafts (Su-30MKIs, Mirage-2000-9s, Jaguars) will be along the Pakistan border.
     
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    RoYaN Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    In all the Paranoia and pride around the MKI Paranoia on one side of the border pride on the other duly justified Thee MKI i menacing but one must remember there are 69 MiG29 being upgraded to MiG-29SMT standard. These can cause a lot of problems on their own but when coupled with the MKI they can cause When more problems that the MKI can when on its own.

    Also to note The naval MiG-29s which navy claims is better than the MKI can cause even more problems to coastal defenses and ports.!!
     
  5. A haseeb A

    A haseeb A Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    So basically,Su-30 MKI will be the real threat against other aircrafts...I think that Mirage-2000 and Jaguars cannot dogfight that well...
     
  6. Sanjeeb Bose

    Sanjeeb Bose Lieutenant SENIOR MEMBER

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    This can be a possibility as you have stated. Although I am not from the military background, my gut feeling is that China will stay away from any such conflict for its own interests.... China will try its best not to confront India as there is lot at stakes e.g. economy etc etc...

    My belief is that say for argument shake we assume that China gets involve itself in any future INDO - PAK war like scenarios... The USA will also come into the picture in support of India no doubt about it, THIS China fears the most and will be the most deciding factor against her getting directly involved into any INDO - PAK confrontation. China will prefer to act as mediator between the two in any such scenarios.

    Edit: I have taken a different perspective, leaving the probable military response by IAF to my other honorable members of this forum.
     
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  7. RoYaN

    RoYaN Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    The MiG-29's will be based on India's western front some to the north of Pakistan in an airbase in Tajikistan.Not all the MKI's will be on the Pakistan front a lot of them will be on the Chinese front in Peace time.
    in war time aircraft based in the south will be pushed to to central and northern regions to reinforce the front-line bases some strike aircraft will be pulled out from the Pakistani front and put on the Chinese from if an attack is eminent,there will be no pressure let up on the Pakistani front as the naval air arm will come to play.
     
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    RoYaN Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    The upgraded Mirages with Mica can defend it self to an extent but the Jags are far more vulnerable than the Mirages.
     
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    Most of the cases, they'll be escorted by Su-30MKIs or Mig-29s.

    Jaguar is a low level strike aircraft, its main objective is to evade radar and strike inside enemy territory and Mirage 2000s are quite maneuverable and will be used for precision strikes.

    While Su-30 MKIs will stay airborne during their operation and will engage PAF aircrafts in BVR fight, and with AWACs support there is very little scope of WVR engagement or Dog fighting.
     
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    RoYaN Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Jaguar as a strike aircraft would be an acceptable description but how is it an interceptor??
     
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    MAFIAN GOD Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    Jaguars are not meant for dogfights.
    It is a Deep Penetration Strike Aircraft for IAF.
    It functions like a bomber.
     
  12. Skull and Bones

    Skull and Bones Doctor Death Staff Member MODERATOR

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    Oh, made a mistake, It's a low level strike aircraft.

    Corrected. :tup:
     
  13. Manmohan Yadav

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    In Any scenario, Su-30 MKI will be seen as a primary threat to any aggressor force against India
    until the Arrival of the MRCA fighters, this will increase their tensions and with further induction of
    PAK FA and FGFA, i am sure all these fighters will steal the show.

    But ofcource all these will need to be upgraded after ever new development in technology.
     
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    A haseeb A Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    Of course China won't get directly involved....it could risk WWIII...

    I'm saying that if China verbally threatens and starts conducting a bit aggressive sorties within its own territory...

    In this kind of a situation,IAF will definitely come under pressure...
     
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    Indian strategic thinking has factored that in. Remember what an ex-Army Chief had said preparing for "two fronts'. And that was only about the Army. Even the IAF has that in its plans.
    However war is not that likely, and a two-front war even more so. China is too realistic to get deeply involved in to somebody else's misadventures, as borne out by China's actions in the past.
     
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