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    A400M tests on rough airfield in Niger.



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    For the moment we are receiving the 11th.
     
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    Pilatus bullish on PC-21 trainer sale to France


    Pilatus is hopeful of clinching an order from the French air force in early 2017 for 20-25 PC-21 turboprops as a replacement for the service’s aged fleet of Dassault Alpha Jet trainers.

    Speaking at the NBAA business aviation convention in Orlando, Florida on 31 October, Markus Bucher, chief executive of the Swiss manufacturer, says a contract from France's DGA procurement agency is “quite close”.

    The PC-21, which is powered by a single Pratt & Whitney Canada PT6 engine, is the only aircraft being offered by the two shortlisted consortia, respectively led by Airbus Defence & Space and Babcock.

    Although clearly in prime position, Bucher cautions that a deal may “still take a little while” to finalise. Assuming that Paris does not abandon the procurement, a decision is likely in early 2017.

    Pilatus had previously faced competition from Leonardo’s Aermacchi M-345, but the developmental jet has not been taken forward to the final stages of the contest.

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    https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/pilatus-bullish-on-pc-21-trainer-sale-to-france-430939/

    Opinion ? @BON PLAN @Picdelamirand-oil @halloweene
     
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    Why not, we need it.
     
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    It's excellent choice I think. Well proven, reliable and capable platform.

    I have a somewhat disturbing image of French deploying this as CAS aircraft to target thugs in the jungles of French Guiana :p....or maybe the desert terrorists of Africa. 5 hardpoints available if you want them :p
     
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    Why not. It's a decent trainer.

    And..... maybe we could buy it and in exchange sell to Swiss some Rafale to replace aged F18 ....
     
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    The new SSN Barracuda may also received woman.
     
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    The PC-21 (or any Pilatus trainer) is an excellent aircraft...but what's with a turboprop replacing a jet? I believe the Alpha Jet can reach transonic speeds which turboprops like PC-7 or PC-21 can't.

    I do not know how the AdlA pilot-training is structured, but atleast in India, the PC-21 would be a Basic Turboprop Trainer (BTT) while the Alpha Jet and M-345 would be considered Advanced Jet Trainers (AJTs) on par with the BAE Hawk.

    I would think the PC-21 would replace other existing propeller aircraft like the TB-30 Epsilon.

    Would appreciate your inputs on this doubt of mine (turboprop replacing jet).
     
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    Nothing to do with stealth, really. Just angular lines adopted as the design language by the maker...like Hyundai's "fluidic" design language for it's newer cars...

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    Forgive the off-topic banter. :angel:
     
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    Is the top speed so important for a trainer? Isn't the desk that must copy that of the frontline fighter?
     
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    Was only a joke bro. but good reply regardless. thanks

    Good Day!
     
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    PC-21 must not be considered as a simple plane, but a whole simulation system in itself. Eg, it will mimick some jets by accelerating more when speed goese up. It can mimisk four vs four engagements etc.
     
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    France is currently deploying its only aircraft carrier and an escort group,in the fight against ISIS in Syria and Iraq.

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    For the first time ever,the Charles de Gaulle's airwing is only composed of Rafale.

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    The Strike Group is composed of ;

    6 ships including ;

    -The Charles de Gaulle aircraft carrier.
    -The Chevalier Paul air-defence frigate. (Horizon class)
    -The Forbin air-defence frigate. (Horizon class)
    -The Jean de Vienne anti submarine frigate. (Georges Leygues class)
    -The Marne command and replenishment oiler. (Durance class)

    -The Augsburg anti submarine frigate of the german navy. (Bremen class)

    1 submarine ;

    -SSN of the Rubis class,name is classified.

    26 aircrafts ;

    -24 Rafale M.
    -2 Hawkeye.

    9 helicopters ;

    -2 Dolphin helicopters.
    -1 Alouette III helicopter.
    -2 NH90 helicopters.
    -1 Panther helicopter.
    -3 Lynx helicopters. (one is of the german navy.)
     
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