Future Infantry Combat Vehicle (FICV) - News and Discussions

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    NEW DELHI: The Union defence ministry is finally fast-tracking the long-pending mega 'Make in India' project to produce at least 2,610 future infantry combat vehicles (FICVs) for the Army at an estimated cost of about Rs 60,000 crore.

    MoD sources said two of the five private contenders in the fray, apart from the Ordnance Factory Board (OFB), "will soon be selected" to design and build prototypes for the FICVs.

    The government will fund 80% of the development cost, which could be around Rs 3,000-4,000 crore.

    "The best prototype will then be selected for mass production. The ministry's integrated project management team (IPMT) is in the final stage of evaluating the EoI (expression of interest) responses submitted by the OFB and five private vendors," said a source. The private contenders are L&T, Mahindra, Pipavav Defence & Offshore Engineering and two consortiums of Tata Motors-Bharat Forge and Tata Power SED-Titagarh Wagons.

    Basically armoured personnel carriers designed to swiftly transport infantry soldiers into the battlefield behind tanks, the FICVs are meant to gradually replace the old Russian-origin BMP-II infantry combat vehicles in the Army. Though not as deadly and well-protected as main-battle tanks, the amphibious troop carriers will have their own anti-tank missiles, cannons and machine guns.

    The 1.3-million strong Army, incidentally, has 63 armoured regiments of T-90S, T-72 and Arjun tanks, backed by 44 Mechanised Infantry units with their BMPs, for swift multiple ground offensives into enemy territory.


    But the FICV project has so far failed to take off due to glitches and controversies since it was first accorded "acceptance of necessity" under the 'Make (Hi-Tech)' category in October 2009. The previous EoI, issued in May 2010, was cancelled by the MoD after major faults were found in the evaluation process in December 2012.


    The MoD hopes similar mistakes with the fresh EoI, which was issued in July last year, will not be repeated. But while the IPMT has sought repeated clarifications from the contenders, it has not visited and inspected their manufacturing facilities for an on-ground assessment till now.
    The EoI lays down the contenders will be assessed on four major counts: commercial, technical capability, availability of critical technologies and technical specifications of the FICVs they propose to build. The sheer size of the "lucrative" FICV project has even seen some countries hard-sell their infantry combat vehicles to India.


    The US, for instance, has showcased its Stryker armoured vehicles during the joint 'Yudh Abhyas' exercises. But the government is pushing the Make in India project for the Army.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...mbat-vehicle-project/articleshow/55931200.cms
     
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    What is status of FICV being developed by tata?
     
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    Haha, these guys truly are jokers. They are already behind schedule; they should have ALREADY (by the end of 2016 the DM had promised) have down selected 2 bidders to progress to protoype stage which they have not done and now they are talking about "fast tracking"? First meet YOUR OWN GOD DAMN TARGETS before making such ridiculous claims.
     
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    The Kestral you mean?
     
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    nope the one with tracks.
     
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    TATA has formed a consortium to offer this product and that is taking part in the FICV competition just like all other bids.
     
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    The orginal FICV had two elements; tracked and wheeled however that orginal competition was cancelled soon after being intiated.

    In the meantime the DRDO had developed their own wheeled APC with amphibious performance and had tied up with TATA (after a competitive bidding process) to develop/produce the chassis, drivetrain, suspension (and another element that eludes me right now). This product, the Kestral, is now in user trails and could/should be ordered within the next 2-3 years but is ENTIRELY de-linked from the ongoing FICV project.

    Now, the IA has restarted the FICV competition but this time, understanding the foolishness of combining their wheeled and tracked requirements into one order and appreciating the DRDO-TATA Kestral's development, they are now only hunting for a tracked IFV/APC which is what is being discussed here.
     
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    [​IMG]
    This one.
    It was in the trials some time ago
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    What happened to the Abhay IFV???

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    Tech demonstrator.

    I'm sure some/a lot of its tech found its way onto the Kestral.
     
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    Thanks guys as always. I just found it wierd, the article mentioned Striker which is a wheeled platform.

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    I think the project was made a Technology Demonstrator for future platforms. But I'm not too sure, just vague memory from somewhere.

    Good day!
     
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    TOIlet new at it again.

    The FICV EOI is for a tracked vehicle onle, there is no longer any competition for a Wheeled vehicle.
     
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    damn Just checked ... its another BS article from Rajat Pandit!!! ... must have been told to give a 200 word count article and needed to fill up space!!!
     
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    The last few lines definetly smell like they are there to merely add volume, they don't even make sense in the context of 2016.

    The Strykers were looked at in 2009 but the IA was really more interested in the "Stryker brigade combat team" concept than the actual vehicle. With the Kestral in user trails and with FICV stipulating a tracked vehicle with an Indian entity being the lead member the entire section is moot.
     
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