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Future Infantry Combat Vehicle (FICV) - News and Discussions

Discussion in 'Indian Army' started by Agent_47, Dec 12, 2016.

  1. Schwifty

    Schwifty 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    randomradio Mod Staff Member MODERATOR

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    No problem. Any info you can find through Google, you can post. Secrecy is somebody else's headache.
     
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    Abingdonboy Major Technical Analyst

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    NextGen war machines: L&T, TaMo, Bharat Forge may get nod to make FICV prototypes, say sources

    Ministry of Defence (MoD) has given nod to three companies for the Futuristic Infantry Combat Vehicle (FICV) project, say sources.

    Ordinance factory board, Larsen and Toubro (L&T) and a consortium of Tata Motors and Bharat Forge have been shortlisted by the ministry to make prototypes. Integrated Defence Staff, an in house panel that provides inputs to Defence Ministry on capital acquisitions, gave a go ahead to the companies last week.

    Defence Procurement Board will give the final nod for FICV selection next week. One of the prototypes will be selected and then there will be bidding for the final project.

    The project size is estimated at Rs 60,000 crore for 2,600 plus FICVs and the entire life cycle cost will be at least Rs 1,000 crore over the next 15-20 years.

    For the completion of the project the three companies will be given around Rs 3,000-4,000 crore.

    The FICV is a high-mobility armoured battle vehicle for ferrying infantry men.

    It will replace the Army’s fleet of 2,610 Russian-designed BMP series armed vehicles in operation since 1980.

    Once a prototype is successfully tested and validated, around 2,610 such systems or upgraded ones will be procured by the MoD and the delivery will be in a phased manner.

    These prototypes would be evaluated for their performance in plain and desert terrains.


    http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/bu...make-ficv-prototypes-say-sources-2294021.html


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    Notsuperstitious FULL MEMBER

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    I want our forces to make atleast ONE super fast procurement like how the Egyptians did with rafale (first deliveries within 7 months). Just for kicks. Just for feel good. Just to dust off all that years of pent up frustration.
     
  5. Abingdonboy

    Abingdonboy Major Technical Analyst

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    @Agent_47 what's the next phase? Prototypes, is it 2 years the bidders have to make them ready for trails?
     
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    Abingdonboy Major Technical Analyst

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    Well it's not going to be THIS deal! FICV is going to be an entirely new product from the ground up and will require a significant period of devlopment and user testing, this is not an off the shelf buy.

    Maybe soothe yourself with the M777 and K9 deals? M777 deal was signed in late 2016, first 2 guns are with IA now (to create fire tables) and first K9s will bb handed over by the end of 2017 (deal signed early 2017).

    For the complex deals (fighters, warships, R&D projects), India will NEVER get the kind of deals as "lesser" nations simply because of the different yardsticks and requirements of India.
     
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    Butter Chicken Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Afghanistan can also be provided some of these for further economies of scale.(along with Dhanush,ATAGS)
     
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    Abingdonboy Major Technical Analyst

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    Let's not get ahead of ourselves! It will take the best part of a decade for the IA to get their full order of these vehicles! What is more likely is the ANA will be provided with the ex-IA BMP-2s as they are phased out (similar to what happened with the MI-25s).
     
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    Agent_47 Admin - Blog Staff Member MODERATOR

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    From my understanding, this result is pre SP procedure. Now this project is under SP. It's confusing when you mix both. This was under 'make india'(IDDM) but now the SP route is suggesting 'buy and make'/ license production. We have to wait for more clarity.

    @Sancho
     
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    Agent_47 Admin - Blog Staff Member MODERATOR

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    https://www.google.co.in/amp/wap.bu...rocurement-policy-cleared-116032200058_1.html
     
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    Abingdonboy Major Technical Analyst

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    Has it been confirmed that the FICV has now been brought under SP? I don't think that will happen.
     
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    Abingdonboy Major Technical Analyst

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    You may be right but I thought that may allude to the FRCV, not sure if it is possible to retrospectively impose the SP conditions on the FICV project and supersede the orginal EOI and if they did this would lead to a considerable delay in the entire process, the project may have to be restarted enitrely.
     
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  14. Hellfire

    Hellfire Devil's Advocate Staff Member MODERATOR

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    I doubt we are looking at two separate programs. I expect a single vehicle to be developed and the same be suitably used for both an ICV and a MBT.

    Another thought process that comes to mind, and this is pure speculation, if both programs are being given a go ahead, is a Tank in 20-30 Tonnes category for Mountain Strike Corps Armoured Brigade and ICV on a common platform, and a separate vehicle for the MBT replacement program, where Arjun may prove to be the base for a new vehicle.
     
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    shaktimaan Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    They have to develop FICV from scratch, then prototypes will undergo testing and best one will get orders....
     

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