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Future of The Indian Navy: News & Discussions

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  1. Gessler

    Gessler Mod MODERATOR

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    In this thread I will try to list out all the main warships, submarines, weapon & defence systems and supporting technologies that are being/to be acquired by the Indian Navy down the years. Please note that existing systems are NOT MENTIONED unless they are of a class that is still being built-up or have some major upgrade program that needs to be mentioned.

    Part-1

    Main Surface Combatants -


    Project-15B Bangalore-class destroyers
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    An improved version of Kolkata-class. 4 ships planned, 1st one's hull almost complete. First major warship-class to be built after MDL received much-needed upgrades in terms of modular construction.

    Carries 16 x BrahMos anti-ship/land-attack cruise missiles (will be replaced with Mach 7-8 BrahMos-II once that's ready) and 48-64 SAMs (Barak-8/8ER), all contained in VLS cells. A new CIWS cannon should be inducted by the time these ships are doing sea trials. MF-STAR AESA multifunction radar and RAWL-02/RAN-40L search radar with EMDINA Combat management system will be integrated. BEL HUMSA-NG sonar suite will be standard.

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    Project-15A Kolkata-class destroyers
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    The most powerful warship built in India so far. 3 ships planned, 1st one inducted & commissioned earlier this month. 2nd & 3rd ones will follow next year. Armament suite includes 16 BrahMos-1 cruise missiles and 32 (according to some, 64; with 32 additional reloads) Barak-8 SAMs, all VLS-based. Comes with 4 CIWS cannons of 30mm caliber and a 76mm main SRGM.
    Radars are the same as P-15B as are CMS and Sonar suites, albeit P-15B might be using more advanced/later versions.

    Full load displacement quoted as 7,400 tons.

    Hangars for 2 large helicopters are available : the competition of 12-ton Multirole choppers for DDGs should begin soon with the competitors being CH-148 Cyclone and AW-101. Winning helos could be armed with light anti-ship missiles such as Kongsberg NSM, and will have their own torpedos & dunking sonars. It's also the same for P-15B.

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    Project-15 Delhi-class destroyers upgrade*
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    The 3 existing Delhi-class destroyers, each with 6,900 tons of displacement and currently carrying 16 cruise missiles and 80 surface-to-air missiles will be upgraded with the MF-STAR multifunction radar, new EMDINA combat management suite and new sonars. The 16 Kh-35 Switchblade/Uran-E missiles will be replaced with tube-launched BrahMos-1 while the 42 Shtil-1 (9M317M) SAMs will be replaced by Barak-8, the 32 Barak-1 being retained with upgrades.

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    Project-17A frigates
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    Much-improved versions of Shivalik-class FFG. Total 7 planned for construction at two different shipyards (4 at MDL and 3 at GRSE), this number could grow to 10 if an additional 3 Talwar-class frigates are not ordered. The frigates will have largely the same radars & CMS, sonar suites as the P-15B destroyers - like the MF-STAR multifunction radar and HUMSA-NG hull-mounted sonar array.

    Armament will consist of 8 cruise missiles (BrahMos-1/2) and 32 surface-to-air missiles (Barak-8), all launched from VLS cells. Fully conceled torpedo tubes and redesigned flush deck to reduce radar & acoustic signature will be implemented. Full load displacement could be between 6,200 and 6,800 tons.

    New CIWS cannons and 76mm/127mm SRGM will be implemented in likely redesigned turrets.

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    Talwar (Krivak-IV)-class frigates
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    Adding to the 6 already in service, another 3 to be ordered from Russia as Batch-III with some upgrades to the combat management system. Armament suite of 8 BrahMos cruise missiles and 24 9M317M SAMs will be retained.

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    Project-28 Kamorta-class ASW corvettes
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    New-generation corvettes with an emphasis on anti-submarine warfare. Total 4 planned, 1st one commissioned earlier this month. The design includes advanced X-form hull (a first in India) and several radar, acoustic, and Infra-Red suppression measures. The corvette, with a full load displacement of 3,400 tons is geared for ASW missions with an array of torpedos, hull-mounted & towed-array sonars and several processing stations dedicated for submarine-hunting. The ship would receive a 16-cell Barak-1 SAM suite in the future. The capability to launch an anti-submarine version of the Klub missile through torpedo tubes is said to exist, with transfer of Klubs for Kamorta being documented in SIPRI, but such capability is not officially mentioned.

    Another 8 corvettes of an improved design under Project-28A could be cleared for construction after the 3rd & 4th vessels (which will bring some new design developments as compared to 1st and 2nd ones) of present class are completed.

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    New-generation Corvettes
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    With the indigenous ship design agencies already jam-packed, the design for 16 new guided missile corvettes will be acquired from a European or Russian design agency and then they will be constructed in India with some modifications. Picture of Swedish Visby-class is only for depiction, although that design is most likely to be among the competitors.

    *While the SLEP upgrade of P-15 Delhi destroyers is a sure thing to happen, the exact systems & weapons to be included in that upgrade are not yet confirmed so have that one with a pinch of salt.

    > Another thing that deserves mention is the possible upgrade of 3 existing Project-16A frigates with Maitri/Barak-1 SAMs and new electronic systems. Tube-launched BrahMos-1 cannot be ruled out either.
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    On top of the 7 new destroyers under P-15A/B, there are rumors of upto 8 to 12 more next-generation destroyers of a new design, with indigenous AESA-based multifunction radars and fully integrated masts. Then again, it's just a rumor, although defence analysts have confirmed that IN plans to have a fleet of 18 destroyers total.
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    (picture of DCNS Swordship used for depiction as the IN & it's design agencies are evidenced
    to be researching into trimaran warships for future main surface combatants.)

    Will be Continued in Part-2 : Aircraft Carriers & Amphibious Landing Platforms
     
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  2. Anish

    Anish Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Would it be possible for IN to convert INS Viraat post 2017 into an Amphibious assault ship?


    @Gessler
     
  3. Gessler

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    Technically feasible. But it's a waste of an effort, the ship itself is too old and it would cost a fortune to refurbish it. We'll have
    to completely change the propulsion as well.

    Better to get a new one.
     
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    Anish Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Cost of refurbishing would be less than buying something new like a Wasp or Mistral?

    INS Jalashwa costed $50 million but it is more of a transport carrier than an assault ship.

    Cost of a Mistral would be around $600 million.
    Surely new propulsion would cost less?
     
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    Gessler Mod MODERATOR

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    It's not worth it. The hull is too old. Even if fully refurbished it wouldn't last more than a decade.
     
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    Anish Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Well thats sad. I suppose they sell Viraat for scrap or hopefully make it a museum.

    Any idea on fate of Sea Harrier after Viraat retires?

    Vikramaditya is at full capacity with Mig29K/KUB.
     
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    Harriers will be retired, ofcourse. One or two maybe retained for aerial display purpose or something like that.
     
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    Manmohan Yadav Brigadier STAR MEMBER

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    IN is already planning 4 ambitious ships purchase tend is out

    India To Buy Four Large Amphibious Ships | Indian Defence Forum
     
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    Paliwal Warrior Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    A full fledged Aviation wing for the navy

    including air bases in indian coasts on eastern western Andamman *\& nicobar , Maldives, Mauritius, Lakshwdweep
     
  11. Vidyanshu

    Vidyanshu Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    U didn't include future submarines!
     
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    @Gessler awaiting pics of future Aircraft carriers, Amphibious assault ships , fighter jets & submarine
     
  13. Gessler

    Gessler Mod MODERATOR

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    It is an incomplete list, future parts will include all naval assets that are being/to be acquired.

    I'm working on it, but will take some time because of college.
     
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    Part-2 : Aircraft Carriers, Support ships & Amphibious warfare vessels

    Project-71 IAC-1 (Vikrant-class) aircraft carrier
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    The first carrier-class to be designed & built in India. The IAC-1 is a gas turbine-powered STOBAR configuration with MiG-29K and NLCA Tejas jet fighters outlined for operations from it's deck. It can carry a total 30 aircraft, including flight & hangar deck storage. Full-load displacement will be around 40,000 tons. The remainder of the air-wing consists of Ka-31 Helix-B AEW helicopters, Dhruv Mk.3 & Sea King transport/ASW helicopters. The Sea Kings will be replaced in due course by a new NMRH - most likely S-70B-2 Sea Hawk.

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    The electronics will consist of an MFSTAR multifunction AESA radar, a 3D AESA-based search radar (most likely RAN-40L), an indigenous combat management system, and a suite of BEL-built hull-mounted sonars. The ship will have it's own compliment of 32 Barak-8 SAMs as well as 4 CIWS mounts of 30mm caliber. The maximum speed under propulsion is quoted as 30 knots.

    Currently the carrier's hull is almost complete and according to sources, propulsion has been integrated. The ship is being built using modular methods, with the 'island' superstructure nearing completion as well and awaiting installation into place.

    The Vikrant will be operated by the Eastern Naval Command.

    Vikramaditya (Admiral Gorshkov/Kiev)-class aircraft carrier
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    Although the ship itself, displacing 45,500 tons and capable of carrying 26 aircraft in total, is inducted & operational with the Western Naval Command, there still remains the program to outfit it with Barak-8 SAMs and a new CIWS system.

    The Vikramaditya operates MiG-29K fighters & Ka-31 AEW, Dhruv, Sea King, Ka-28PL and Chetak helicopters.

    Vishaal (IAC-2)-class aircraft carrier
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    Although details remain sketchy, it can be said with almost-certainty that the IAC-2 will be built with the following features to boot : a displacement of around 65,000 tons (don't know for sure if full-load or not), CATOBAR configuration with the option of EMALS (US has already made clear it's offer) and nuclear propulsion using the same 180-200MW Pressurized Water Reactor (PWR) that is being developed for future submarine-classes.

    The most sketchy part of the details remains the air-wing. It may consist of either a naval version of FGFA, or Rafale-M taking advantage of IAF's MMRCA deal, which will eventually be replaced by a naval AMCA.

    The CATOBAR configuration allows for the operation of aircraft such as E-2D Advanced Hawkeye and UCAVs. Little is known about the rest of this carrier.

    Although only one has be contemplated so far, we can expect a 2nd ship of this class when the time comes to replace the Vikramaditya. The IN intends for a 3-carrier force, one for Bay of Bengal/China, one for Arabian Sea/Pakistan/Middle East and one on standby or in refit, and according to prominent defence analysts, the IN could standardize on Vishaal & improved designs of the same class by the time the Viki & IAC-1 are to be replaced or transferred into reserves...hinting at a 3rd ship of this class.

    Landing Helicopter Docks
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    Competition for 4 LHDs, 2 of which will be bought from abroad and the remaining 2 built in India. As per the latest of unofficial reports, the Spanish Juan Carlos-I and the French Mistral-class ships are leading the fray for providing four vessels for the IN. Respectively they have displacements of 26,000 tons & 21,300 tons and can transport between 900+ troops & 40-46 main battle tanks along with a plethora of 20-30 helicopters from the flight deck.

    Fleet Support Ships
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    The MoD had recently cleared the procurement of five large Fleet Support Ships (FSS) designed to accompany the CBGs or assist in other amphibious operations. The FSS are to have full-load displacements of around 40,000 tons and will be capable of both astern & abeam transfer of equipment & replenishments for at-sea naval warfare units. No data as yet about the possible competitors or exact method of acquisition. Most probably foreign design will be modified & built in India. Picture of DCNS BRAVE-class ship only for depiction, although that model is likely to be among the competition.

    < Other dedicated fleet replenishment ships will be covered in a different section >

    Next : Part 3 - Submarines (Nuclear & conventional)

    @Anish @Paliwal Warrior @Manmohan Yadav @HMS Astute @Vidyanshu Shekhar Jha
     
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    Such a small navy to protect over 1 billion people and a huge land, innit fam!
     
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