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Future "super destroyer",can India make it??

Discussion in 'Indian Navy' started by Indian Jatt, Mar 23, 2014.

  1. venureddy

    venureddy Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    MISTRAL ? for what?
    Mistral is not an aircraft carrier, it can launch helicopters though...
    IT is good as power projection ship, but what we need is more than that
     
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    venureddy Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    we need those kind of ships for humanatarian assistance and it can support amphibious ops also.
     
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    Are you kidding? Such an expensive ship for Humanitarian assitance? We might use Vikramaditya for that too!!!
    Mistral is a good ship and India might have a need for it, but the doctrine has to be more clear.

    I think India might need a more powerfully armed Missile armed (Cruise missiles and Anti shipping and Air defence) version of Mistral for its operations.
     
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    venureddy Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    yeah i think that is good idea a custom made mistral with our own missiles like nirbhay and brahmos 2 hypersonic.
     
  6. Sancho

    Sancho Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    That's the problem! The whole amhibious capability has actually no importance for India. We are not going to make amphibious landings at Pakistani or Chinese beaches (because that's a suicide operation) and all that is left is the paranoia that somebody could take over some Islands at A&N. IN even makes smaller pirate groups that could use A&N as bases to strategic targets, but even that wouldn't justify all these costs for amphibious vessels.
    I agree to venureddy however, that IN as the biggest naval force in the Indian Ocean other than the USN, must take responsibility in humanitarian roles in this area as well. If India wants to take over an important role in the region, we have to commit ourselfs in such missions and have to have such capabilities. But that alone doesn't make the procurement of LHDs necessary, since LDPs or JSSs are fare cheaper to procure and operate. The biggest naval threat to India remains Chinese subs and we should spend as much money as possible to fight them, instead of wasting money.
     
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    Indian Jatt Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    give it to russia, u know they very good at adding things to the ships they will add SS,AS missiles to it and that to with good systems.......
     
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    Indian Jatt Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    do u know that A&N is a very strategic position in the bay of bengal it can act as an unsinkable AC and to operate aircrafts from utkrosh we will need men their....put some coastal air defences and arti support, we cannot do an amphibious landing yet but USA can and even CHINA can on A&D so INDIA must have something to rely upon, their comes help from these ships LHD/LPD and these ships are for the indian marine brigade which is yet to be made........u remember the deal for heavy helicopters and light too they will replace the alouette's and will also be used for these LHD/LPD.....
     
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    venureddy Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    i have a strange idea cant we use tejas from mistral as it is a small aircraft with some structural modifications to ship like adding ski jump or a catapult. it makes it a mini aircraft carrier and can be used for strike purposes. just an assumption. what are your thoughts on it.
     
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    Indian Jatt Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    i would take the jaun carlos for that role its around 230m that is more then length of virat and it also has ski jump it can operate planes like tejas too hopefully.. [​IMG]
     
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    Sancho Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    The stratigic location is obvious, but it's the lack of credible threats that makes amphibious capabilities useless! There is no neighbor country that would pose a threat in around A&N. Pak navy don't play a role either and a fleet of Chinese ships that include credible forces to occupy A&N islands, would not only be detected days before they arrive in the region, but also intercepted from our carriers and the IN fleet. That makes pirate or terrorist groups as the only possible threat to occupy certain areas if at all, but you don't need 4 x LDPs or even LHDs to fight some pirates or terrorists right? The upgrade and improvement of air strips, as well as more naval vessels that are based there is more than enough and actually far more useful in that regard.
    Btw, there is no helicopter deal yet for IN and LDPs, so far it is likely that IN will go for a large fleet of medium class helicopter (S70 or NFH90) and use them from nearly all types of vessels.
     
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    Not possible, because it can't land vertically like a Harrier or the F35B. N-LCA requires arrested landing capability of the vessel and therefor can only be used at propper aircraft carriers.
     
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    dont u think sir that indian's should increase the weight title for super stallions to come in competition?????and i think india would definitely need to make USA its enemy in order to use these 4 LHD's/LPD's just kidding.Will accusation of these big ships help indian navy to become a blue water navy? how about increasing the fleet tonnage to become a true strong navy..... like 2 or 3 largest navy?:azn:
     
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    Well to be honest, India should either buy the planes like Harriers (or get the production lines working again)
    or buy the ones second hand, and then buy carriers like JUAN CARLOS that can be small aircraft carrier and more effective in creating smalll spheres of influence
     
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    Lots of missiles do that though. Its actually quite an old idea Rapier (missile) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia TBH a missile will be hard to kill by fragmentation. KG6's missiles will not be destroyed by close proximity weapons, it must be a direct hit to kill it.
     

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