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Discussion in 'Indian Navy' started by Ankit Kumar 001, Oct 23, 2016.

  1. Gessler

    Gessler Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    They don't. In fact the two newest ships in that class already got BrahMos in a single 8-cell UVLM. The oldest (INS Rajput) has got 4 x BrahMos in inclined tube launchers.

    It doesn't make sense to me to upgrade the remaining 2 Rajputs with BrahMos in near future. These ships are over 30 years old and I'd think we would decommission these ships within next 10 years. I don't think they will undergo another major refit within the short time they have left.

    Which is why I was confused when Hellfire said R-class will receive BrahMos upgrade. I was thinking only Delhi would receive Brahmos and couldn't understood why he called Delhi as R-class.

    Any idea when this upgrade/refit/SLEP could happen?

    Also - what do you think Delhi Upgrade could incorporate? You think they'll go all the way and install MFSTAR and Barak-8 to go with the BrahMos (or whatever Uran replacement is procured)?

    A requirement for an MRAShM is also there. Although you're right I don't think it's a tender yet.

    https://www.livefistdefence.com/2017/08/indian-navy-floats-new-anti-ship-missile-contest.html
     
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    Hellfire Devil's Advocate THINKER

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    As @Agent_47 mentioned, it is the Rajput Class indeed.
     
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    Sir, nearly all those vessels are 30-35 years old. Wouldn't those ships be decommissioned as Vishakapatanam class destroyers are inducted?
     
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    DAC cleared the deal for 3 Delhi and 3 Talwar last year. Barak 8 is very unlikely brahmos is possible. Shtil SAMs will get upgraded to VLS.

    https://www.rbth.com/economics/2015/06/23/india_keen_on_new_shtil-1_sams_for_navy_43811
     
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    Hellfire Devil's Advocate THINKER

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    That shall be dependent on the pace of further inductions. The refit and upgrade in armament of Rajput class is significant and potent. These platforms will continue to provide potent firepower and dissuasive posturing in the IOR and SCS and beyond for at least next decade and a half. That is my understanding of the situation at present.
     
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    Zer0reZ 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    India to Boost Target Detection Capability of Its Warships With Advanced Sonars

    The deal for supplying nine active towed array sonar (ATAS) systems for Indian warships is most likely to be bagged by a foreign vendor, as a similar system being developed by India’s state-owned Defence Research Development Organization (DRDO) is still not ready.

    New Delhi (Sputnik) — India has started the process of equipping its warships with active towed array sonar (ATAS) systems, which are essential for detecting enemy submarines. The Defense Acquisition Council (DAC) under the chairmanship of Defense Minister Nirmala Sitharaman has cleared a proposal for the procurement of nine ATAS systems. Presently, Indian warships are using bow-mounted sonar or hull mounted sonar systems, which are considered less effective.

    "The DAC approved a $70 million proposal to procure nine active towed array sonar systems for frontline warships. This will help in submarine detection capabilities," an official who wished to remain anonymous told Sputnik.


    The financial approval for the purchase of the ATAS systems comes at a time when most of India's warships, including anti-submarine warfare capable corvettes, frigates and destroyers, lack offensive capabilities in the absence of such sonar systems. The recently commissioned INS Kiltan and two other corvettes — the INS Kamorta that was delivered in July 2014 and the INS Kadmatt that was delivered in November 2015 — do not have their primary weapons and sensors to detect, locate, track and classify all types of sub-surface targets like torpedoes, mines, and submarines.

    "The active towed array sonar [system] is vital for the Indian Navy, as most of the warships do not possess capabilities to detect submarines in the Arabian Sea, where the warm, shallow waters confound conventional hull-mounted sonars," a senior navy official told Sputnik.

    The ATAS system is towed behind a submarine or ship on a cable that extends deep below the surface and has no trouble in detecting sonar waves, as in the case of conventional sonar systems due to the difference in temperature at the surface and deep below the surface where submarines usually lurk.

    As the presence of Chinese submarines in India's backyard will certainly increase in the coming years, it is crucial for the Indian Navy to equip all its warships with effective sonar systems. Most of India's warships are not equipped with the ATAS system, as the country had stalled the import of these devices in the mid-1990s after the state-owned DRDO promised to provide similar systems locally manufactured. However, as the DRDO has failed to develop the system even after 20 years, the Indian government in 2014 decided to take the import route.


     
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    Sancho Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    http://www.straitstimes.com/asia/so...presence-in-indian-ocean-with-an-eye-on-china
     
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    https://twitter.com/livefist/status/928938303285374976
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    PARIKRAMA Captain IDF NewBie

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    @vstol jockey
    The veils are slowly getting removed about Barracuda and our interest + association...

    It would be good to see whats coming in P75I now and what we cross leverage in our SSBN /SSN...

    IAC2 twin reactor is already there as well...
     
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    PARIKRAMA Captain IDF NewBie

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    http://indiandefence.com/threads/ia...-doors-in-new-delhi.62642/page-34#post-603625

    Please notice .. in the words of @abindonboy
    • Which Naval chief is given Nuclear submarine briefing and details?
    • Which maker like Naval Group tweets and talks about F21-Scorpene-Barracuda?

    Thanks @W@rwolf for posting this out.. Now folks can see whats really going on contrary to so many adverse opinions and propaganda..
     
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