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General VK Singh moves SC on his date of birth

Discussion in 'National Politics' started by Star Wars, Jan 16, 2012.

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  1. Star Wars

    Star Wars Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    General VK Singh moves SC on his date of birth


    New Delhi: In an unprecedented move Indian Army Chief General VK Singh on Monday filed a writ petition in the Supreme Court on his date of birth controversy. General Singh has taken the Central Government to the apex court to settle the controversy surrounding his date of birth that will also impact the succession plan in the 1.13 million strong Army.
    General Singh has moved the petition in the Supreme Court independently.
    The Army Chief's date of birth is crucial in deciding when he would retire. He has been contending that May 10, 1951 should be treated as his actual date of birth as it was mentioned in his matriculation certificate but the Defence Ministry has rejected it as May 10, 1950 is the date entered in his UPSC entrance form for National Defence Academy (NDA).
    The records with Adjutant General's branch show it to be May 10, 1951 whereas the Military Secretary's branch records it to be May 10, 1950.
    If 1950 is accepted as his date of birth then Singh will retire in May 2012, but if 1951 is take as the year he was born, then Singh can serve till May 2013.
    On Sunday (January 15) General Singh had said that he had "no clue" of any early resolution of the controversy surroiunding his date of birth, but insisted that the matter be allowed to rest and not become a public debate.
    He had earlier tried to play down his disagreement with the Defence Ministry over the prolonged and messy age row.
    The Defence Ministry has twice rejected his statutory complaint for not treating May 10, 1951 as his year of birth as against May 10, 1950.


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    Looks like the word "FAIL" should be replaced with "UPA" . This govt. is unable to manage anything right. I doubt the political establishments understand the world "Honour and integrity" .
     
  2. DaRk KnIght

    DaRk KnIght Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    We must be happy that our Army Chief is resorting to the Court against govt. :whistle:
     
  3. Star Wars

    Star Wars Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    ROFLIMAO ... i see what you said there
     
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    Marqueur Peaceful Silence ELITE MEMBER

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    :rofl: ... by the book ...
     
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  5. Star Wars

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    There is something wrong here. Its far more than date of Birth. Several retired generals are saying that this is being started by govt to select the next army chief and the present army chief 's will to kill corruption in army...
     
  6. rcscwc

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    There is no controversy. The matter has been decided by the MOD in consultations with Law Ministry. Thrice his pleas had been rejected, and now he says that he was not aware that6 DoB had been settled? A COAS who is not aware such developements about his career, cannot be entrusted with command of the army.

    He himself wrote his DoB in his NDA form, in his own hand writing. He should have clearly known his DoB, after he was not born in a poor family. His father was Col in the army. While forwarding his application, the school authorities, Birla Public School, Pilani, must have verified his DoB from the records.

    There are three alternatives before the govt.

    1. To immidiately issue his compulsory retirement orders. The SC case would become infructous.
    2. To send him leave.
    3. To accept his plea and open a pandora's box of such cases and pleas. Govt would be seen as bowing to the pressures.
     
  7. Bang Galore

    Bang Galore Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    There is a controversy alright. There are two DoB's floating around & by both Army rules & SC decisions, the CoAS is on firm ground. The AG Branch which is supposed to have the records mentions the CoAS's YoB as 1951, the matriculate certificate which according to the SC is the only document accepted for DoB purpose also says 1951. The government is using affidavits submitted for promotion as & CoAS (which was precondition of the then CoAS) as the only defence. Since we have not seen the affidavit, it is impossible to know whether they stand the test of law. The affidavits are believed to be conditional on the issue being resolved to the satisfaction of all parties according to some officers in the MoD. We will see whether that is true soon enough.

    Asking the Chief to leave on this issue is not so simple, would smack of vendetta & leave the government in an untenable position if the SC rules in VK Singh's favour (the case would continue regardless of any government action). It would also change the line of succession that for some reason the government wants to maintain. This matter will now be resolved by the SC, we will just have to wait & see what that decision is.
     
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    Some references to the same:

     
  9. rcscwc

    rcscwc Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    He maybe sent on leave, pending the outcome of his court case.
     
  10. Aboveall

    Aboveall 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    For the past thirty eight years the department responsible for maintaining accurate records of our COAS did not address the issue, which has exposed the inner working of our Government. Before it is too late the citizens of India, next time around will have to find a replacement for both the political parties who form the government at the centre. We have had enough of the scandals and mismanagement of nations affairs for the last sixty four years. Only a new vision and crystal clear policy by real patriots who will play no religious card or any other favour to any group should be elected so that they can start cleaning out the under performing bureaucrats.
     
  11. rcscwc

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    Which department can be faulted? Four times he accepted 1950 as the year of his birth:
    1. In NDA application form.
    2. IMA confidential dossier.
    3. Twice at the time of promotions to senior positions.

    All in his own hand!! Now one fine morning he says he was born in 1951!!
     
  12. Star Wars

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    he never accepted 1950. The only reason he accepted 1950 was he did not want to cause any delay in the promotions of other officers as well but he was told that the dates would be corrected He consistently stuck the the DOB 1951 since he joined NDA
     
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    You say he never accepted. Then you say he accepted, in the interest of other officers. Pray tell me, when he got promoted to g-o-c-in-c, who benefitted? When he bacame COAS, who else benefited?

    Plain and simple. He accepted 1950 because "he wanted immidiate promotion. A bird in hand etc.
     
  14. Bang Galore

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    You are not entirely correct. The NDA form is the only one where Gen. V.K. Singh can be faulted. Forcing someone to accept a DoB while holding the threat of stopping promotions will not be accepted by any court of law as it would rightly be seen as being done under duress. The AG Branch has correctly recorded the dob as being in 1951. The MS branch & the MoD will have to explain the discrepancy. We will soon see where the SC will go if it takes up the case.
     
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    I hope General wins the case and complete his full tenure.
     
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