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Gorakhpur hospital tragedy: UP govt's stand a damning indictment of Yogi Adityanath's work ethics

Discussion in 'National Politics' started by Agent_47, Aug 12, 2017.

  1. Paliwal Warrior

    Paliwal Warrior Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    :facepalm:

    Oxygen consumption is a fixed amount and will also vary
     
  2. vstol jockey

    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    oxygen amount per capita/patient for day is a fixed value. We have many actually practicing doctors on this forum and let us request them to clarify it.
     
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    The average adult, when resting, inhales and exhales about 7 or 8 liters of air per minute. That totals about 11,000 liters of air per day.

    Inhaled air is about 20-percent oxygen. Exhaled air is about 15-percent oxygen. Therefore, about 5-percent of breathed air is consumed in each breath. That air is converted to carbon dioxide. So, as far as how much air is actually used, human beings take in about 550 liters of pure oxygen per day.

    A person who is exercising uses a lot more oxygen than that. To determine how much air is moving through your lungs, exhale into a plastic bag of known volume. See how long it takes to fill the bag.

    Oxygen inhaled varies from person to person but when it comes to Hospital usage, they use average value of oxygen/person for the total number of beds available for their stock, And its a fixed value
     
  4. Paliwal Warrior

    Paliwal Warrior Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    But since it is an estimate based on average it varies in reality and can't be called a fixed value

    Also the lung size and thus the consumption of air or oxygen and thus it's daily consumption will be different in case of adults as you have calculated above and in case of children especially newly born children as is the case of the hospital in question
     
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    Paliwal Warrior Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    This my dear ex navy person. Is what is called demand estimate

    And not consumption
     
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    The buffer stock of any hospital is always fixed until or unless it is reviewed by it administration authorities.
     
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    Oxygen cylinders being diverted is corruption, and since media made it an issue; head of person ,who was indulging in corruption, would roll; whether any patient died of lack of Oxygen or not.

    Deaths are routine and no action is taken against staff because these deaths happens due to an incurable disease. They could do very little to influence number of deaths. In a stage three cancer hospital, 70% of their patients would die. Would you take actions against staff of that hospital for such high death rate, when baseline death rate for disease they are trying to cure is 100%?

    JE is an incurable disease and hospitals does not try to cure disease, but manage symptoms, as symptoms like fever could cause organ failure on its own.

    UP health minister has already said that number of deaths occurring is normal for August. You should blame media and low IQ Indians ,especially AAPtards, who are incapable of understanding basic statistics.
     
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    Diversion of.oxygen cylinders is speculation or info recently ves by vstol jockey
     
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    It is reason of suspension media's "hero" doctor. He was member of purchasing committee,& running his own hospital by swindling supplies from government hospital in collusion with Rajiv Mishra. The Oxygen cylinders he rushed back to hospital belonged to hospital which he had diverted to use in his personal clinic. The ventilator in his clinic also belong to BRD hospital, which again was diverted.
     
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    You will remain what you are and nothing can work for you. Did you read what was written? Do patients exercise in bed? Even in case of exercise the total amount of oxygen consumed in a day is nearly constant as the breathing rate slows down after exercise and so does the pulse rate. If I hit my max value of pulse which is 168 now and maintain it for over two minutes, my resting pulse rate goes down to about 50 which normally is 78. Now first read about how this whole system works for human body and then reply.
    Regarding demand estimate versus actual consumption? My dear banker how are demand estimates made? are they random figures or are they based on actual data generated over a period of time.
     
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    You nailed it.
     
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    is their any source for it to confirm all this?
     
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    This is getting murkier by the minute. With umpteen number of media houses reporting as they wish, creating stories out of thin air, it easy to swindle many of the 1.3 billion emotionally charged people of India.
     
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    It was published in some Hindi newpaper and pics of it was posted on Twitter. In a day or two, it would make its way to English media also, thus providing quotable links.

    Both the Hero and Mishra have been suspended. Hero running private clinic has been reported in MSM too .Scratch that.MSM is still not reporting that he ran a private practice and was member of procurement committee. Hindi media is reporting that the hero and Mishra swindled hospital supplies for running private practice and even ventilator of hospital is lying in Hero's clinic.
     
  15. vstol jockey

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    I had posted about it yesterday itself. This so clled hero is actually the min culprit for these deaths.
     
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