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HAL Caught supplying used AL-31FP engines on brand New Sukhoi 30 MKI

Discussion in 'Indian Defence Industry' started by layman, Apr 10, 2017.

  1. Sancho

    Sancho Major Technical Analyst

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    First of all, the article states that IAF knew about the Cat B engines and therefor might had been ok with it.
    Secondly, the article "claims" safty issues but mainly points to contractual issues

    So their concern for rejecting the engines is actually not safty related, but it sounds more sensational if you link it to crashes, that might not even had engine issues, let alone had these engines installed.
     
  2. Ankit Kumar 001

    Ankit Kumar 001 Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    We have obtained a licence from them to build engines in India for all new Su30MKI , and its contractual costs were paid mostly upfront , after which the Russians here have done well to supply all the Titanium parts from Russia in time.

    The fault here is of HAL.
     
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    lca-fan Captain FULL MEMBER

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    Then entire HAL management's bottom should be kept on gas burner.
     
  4. Ankit Kumar 001

    Ankit Kumar 001 Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    This is just the beginning. They have somehow managed to produce the initial orders for RD33MK for UPG upgrade till now, but they are up for a mess there too.
     
  5. MilSpec

    MilSpec Mod Staff Member MODERATOR

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    this is an idrw link, can anyone post the original deccan chronicle link, i couldn't locate it on their website.

    thanks
     
  6. layman

    layman Aurignacian STAR MEMBER

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    layman Aurignacian STAR MEMBER

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    Source is bogus or DC needs to prove it, founded by a newspaper and chronical $hit is already in govt scanner for fraud, until it come out officially take it with a pinch of salt.......

    Thing is the will it come out officially if it is true ?
     
  9. Blue Marlin

    Blue Marlin 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    well refurbished engines are fine, heck there refurbished right?

    but this???????? it's more like purposeful negligence.
     
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  10. Grevion

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    How can they put a damn second hand engine on the MKIs. The work ethics of HAL are poorer then we thought.
     
  11. The enlightened

    The enlightened 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    Just so everyone knows Blue Marlin is a false flagging Pakistani.
     
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  12. Blue Marlin

    Blue Marlin 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    @PARIKRAMA i've been exposed :cheesy:
     
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    InfoWarrior 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    you have hit the nail on its head. HAL should make things clear, this must be the excuse given by HAL
     
  14. Averageamerican

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    If picture is actually of a repair facility, it does not lend confindence, looks worse then thoses used for Rafales.
     
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    Prasun K. Sengupta said...

    To SETHZ: LoLz! As I had explained several times before, in aviation parlance, there’s no such thiong as new or obnsolete, barnd-new or used. The TTSL of every component is quantified by its usage. So is the case with turbofans. It is perfectly normal to use a turbofan after it has emerged after its scheduled overhauls after reaching its TBO. Such engines can be used by existing aircraft or even one just off the final assembly line. If HAL did such a thing, it was done because there probably a shortage of new-build AL-31FP arrivals & therefore HAL had to delve into its stock of overhauled AL-31FPs so that aircraft deliveries aren’t delayed. It’s a perfectly normnal & certifiable practice & does not violate any rule of regulation as far as floight safety goes.
     
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