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HAL LUH / Ka-226: News and Discussions

Discussion in 'Indian Air Force' started by Gessler, Sep 6, 2016.

  1. brahmos_ii

    brahmos_ii Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    After getting a large Indian order, Russian Helicopters has decided to double its production facilities for the light multi-purpose Ka-226T helicopters. These helicopters are currently being built in the Bashkir city of Kumertau, at the Kumertau Aviation Production Enterprise (KumAPP), but will soon be assembled in Ulan-Ude to meet the Indian order. Two years ago, KumAPP was an unprofitable enterprise, because of idle capacity, but with the new export contracts for 2017, the plant load factor has increased by 40%.

    Russian Helicopters, a member company of the Rostec Holding, is building a duplicate of its latest production facilities for the Ka-226T at the Ulan-Ude Aviation Plant (U-UAZ), company representatives told Kommersant. KumAPP in Bashkiria, which now produces the Ka-226T, will retain its full assembly cycle, but will produce aircraft for the Russian law enforcement agencies, civil operators and individual foreign customers.

    This decision was taken “for the expeditious implementation” of the intergovernmental agreement signed in October with the Indian state-owned company Hindustan Aeronautics Limited. The parties have agreed to establish a joint venture to localize the production of the Ka-226T in Bangalore, India. The first 60 aircraft will be assembled in Russia, while another 140 Ka-226T will be assembled in India under license (see Kommersant on October 15).

    “The distribution of the areas of responsibility between the companies” will allow the implementation of this “priority project on time and without any loss of quality,” Kommersant was told at the holding.

    The Ka-226T light multipurpose helicopter is a modification of the Ka-226, developed by the Kamov LLC (a member company of Russian Helicopters). It can to carry up to seven people in the transport version – one ton of cargo. It is equipped with two Arrius engines from the French company Safran Helicopter Engines, and is capable of flying day and night and in any weather. Around 70 Ka-226T helicopters have been produced in Russia, mainly for government agencies.

    At Russian Helicopters, Kommersant learned that loading had sharply increased at the KumAPP, because of new equipment and service contracts. It will increase by 40% in 2017, while the number of helicopters assembled will grow more than four times, because of the export orders.

    Six Ka-32 for China are scheduled to be assembled at KumAPP in 2017; the demand for Ka-27 and Ka-31 helicopters is growing for naval aviation in several countries; while the factory has signed a contract with India for the Ka-28M. The volume of confirmed KumAPP contracts for 2017 is estimated at 10.5 billion rubles. The plant in Ulan-Ude has wide experience dating back to the Soviet era, of transferring to India, together with the Irkutsk Aircraft Factory, a licence for the manufacture of MiG-27 aircraft. The U-UAZ has sufficient human and technical capacities to train staff in the assembly of helicopters and working with digital manufacturing systems.

    Russian Helicopters had started the redistribution of orders between plants in 2015. The reforms were first designed to rescue the under-loaded and unprofitable KumAPP. Russian Helicopters refinanced a large part of the plant’s debts (more than 12 billion rubles) in 2012-2013, which allowed KumAPP to negotiate a low interest rate on its loans. However, in 2014, the plant’s losses increased 2.5 times, to 2.5 billion rubles while revenues increased by only 5%, to 3.9 billion rubles, and payable accounts reached 4.7 billion rubles. In February 2015, a conflict arose in Kumertau between workers and the management because of fears of layoffs (the disagreement was settled).

    At the end of the year, KumAPP was transferred to the Kazan Helicopter Plant and, in 2015, its revenues increased by 42% – up to 9.6 billion rubles, while net profits amounted to 1.2 billion rubles. This profit, the holding company explained, resulted from an increased volume of sold products.

    Oleg Panteleyev, Executive Director of AviaPort Agency, believes that the Russia-India Ka-226T project is “extremely important” for Russian Helicopters. If successfully implemented, said Panteleyev, the company will be able to enter other markets and take its place in the not very well mastered light helicopters niche. Until recently, noted Panteleyev, the holding company was discussing reducing the number of enterprises involved in the final assembly of helicopters, but such a decision was fraught with social tensions and conflict with government authorities of the regions.

    http://in.rbth.com/economics/defenc...226t-helicopters-for-india-at-ulan-ude_669496
     
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    Ripcord322 Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    I hope the IMRH project gets off the ground too...(That is if they didn't kill it already...)

    I hope someday we will be import free for Very Light (LUH) / Light (ALH) /and Medium Category (IMRH) of Choppers...

    It's not necessary to make every sub-system desi at first.... They can import whats unavailable... Then gradually indiginise it...

    And ofcourse... There should be private production lines to augment the Sarkari ones too...

    Imagine the money we will save....
     
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  6. Inactive

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    not a hawk.

    Excellent news. Hopefully the planned aviation brigades will now come into being with all round development of air assets for the same being undertaken in house.
     
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    randomradio Colonel Technical Analyst

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    A private business jet. Dunno which make or model.
     
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  8. AbRaj

    AbRaj Captain FULL MEMBER

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    Looks very much like Sara's to me
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    Aqwoyk Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    No way
    it is a trainer jet aircraft imo
     
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    AbRaj Captain FULL MEMBER

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    Look at canopy? placement of wing and tail
    And possibly passenger Windows
     
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    Aqwoyk Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Yep my mistake, but it is not the plane you posted above
     
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    Looks like Embraer phenom -This one is owned by Joyalukkas Indian jewelry empire
     
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    Very likely
     
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    Russia clears helicopter deal with India after months of deliberations
    Published April 6, 2017
    SOURCE: ENS

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    After months of deliberations, India and Russia finally gave formal approval for a joint venture between Russian helicopters and Indian aeronautical public sector Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) to manufacture 200 Kamov-226T helicopters, according to senior defence ministry official in the national capital.

    A $1 billion inter-government agreement to manufacture the helicopters in India was finalised at the Indo-Russian Summit in Goa October 2016, in presence of Narendra Modi and Russian President Vladimir Putin. It was in December 2015 that it was first announced that the Kamov-226T would be the copter of choice.

    According to defence ministry sources, after reservation from New Delhi over cost sharing, the deal was stuck for months but was eventually got final approval from the office of Russian President Vladimir Putin now.

    According to an agreement, Kamov-HAL will be producing 200 of the Kamov 226-T copters at a cost of nearly Rs 6,500 crore or Rs 32 crore per copter in India. However, Indian forces require nearly 800 such light utility helicopters for their day to day requirement, as an incumbent fleet of Cheetah and Chetak vintage helicopters have lived beyond the threshold by more than 12-15 years which were purchased from France and inducted into the Indian Army over 40 years ago in 1971.

    These light utility helicopters termed as a lifeline for high altitude operations used for high altitude posts, which are inaccessible by roads to supply ration, equipment, weapons and casualty evacuation missions.

    Army has been making efforts to replace its ageing fleet of light utility helicopters for the last 15 years.

    The Army had initiated the process of replacing Cheetah and Chetak fleet in early 2002, but the jinxed acquisition process could not go through in Congress led UPA government after repeated bribery scandals. Eventually, the MoD in 2014 scrapped Army’s contract of buying 197 such utility helicopters.

    Upset with repeated accidents involving Cheetah and Cheetak helicopters, in 2012, army headquarters had written a letter to the office of the then defence minister AK Antony highlighting obsolescence issues which are dogging the fleet are component failures, low reliability, accidents and increased structural failures.

    Army had gone into saying that cheetah/chetak have helicopters have virtually become “death traps”.

    According to an official, as many as 20 pilots have lost their life in the Cheetah crashes in the recent years.

    In 2014, a delegation of wives of army helicopter pilots had met the then defence minister Manohar Parrikar and raised their concern about the accidents involving these obsolete choppers.

    There are about 250 Cheetahs/chetak in service at present with the army aviation corps. The airframe life of the light-utility helicopter is about 4,500 hours, but most of the Cheetahs that the Army has have logged over 6,000 flying hours. The engine life of the chopper is 1750 hours and most have gone past that too.

    Source
     
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