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High-speed production: Chinese navy built 83 ships in just eight years

Discussion in 'China & Asia Pacific' started by ashkum2278, Sep 21, 2017.

  1. ashkum2278

    ashkum2278 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    Chinese navy produces designs which surpass the most modern ships of the US navy in size, volume, armament and quantity.

    The Chinese navy (the People’s Liberation Army Navy or PLAN) has, over the past two decades, augmented its fleet with new capabilities and platforms to control the near seas and fulfil the country’s Blue Navy Dream. By 2050, China is likely to have the largest navy in the world, unless the US navy overcomes its resource crunch. The quality of ships, their armaments and performance is comparable with most modern countries.

    Chinese shipbuilding speed has impressed everyone across the board.

    A article published by ThePrint on construction of Chinese intelligence ships(Type 815A) evoked a big response. Many comments on social media expressed awe at the speed of construction which has been enormously high. Readers asked how China’s naval shipyards are able to produce such large ships in a short period of time. Some people compared the speed of production to making dumplings.

    The PLAN first produced smaller high-speed missile carrying catamarans called Type 22 Houbei class. Around 83 were built in just over eight years. Then the Type 52C and Type 54A, surprised the whole world with speed of construction at Shanghai’s Jiangnan Changxing and Hudong Zhonghua shipyards.

    And now the most modern — Type 56, Type 52D, Type 55, Type 815A AGI (Auxiliary General Intelligence), Type 71 LPD (Landing Platform Dock) and even the AOR(Auxiliary Oil Replenishment) Type 901 — are also being built at Shanghai, Wuhan, Guangzhou and Dalian.

    No holidays
    China’s shipyards do not have the word “holiday’ in their dictionary. There are no Sundays or special festival days observed in any of the shipyards. There are no death anniversaries of politicians, leaders or martyrs observed as holidays.

    All shipyards work on three shifts of eight hours in a day. The workforce is regularly circulated. There are no unions calling for shut downs.

    Designs of ships
    The design bureaus work in similar fashion. The difference is that, they produce designs which surpass the most modern ships of the US navy in size, volume, armament, quantity and quality (which China is yet to prove in an actual combat).

    Students in universities are being encouraged to build new designs and innovate on already existing designs.

    Most Western experts feel that Chinese ships are crudely constructed and may not withstand the test of combat against a peer navy. They also feel the Chinese submarines are very noisy and would easily be detected when on long duration patrols. The focus of the designers appears to be to produce largest ships in the world.
    Construction in modules

    The construction of most of the large ships is done in modules, produced either at the same shipyard or at different shipyards, and brought for assembly. These modules are joined together to form the basic structure of the ship, which is later fitted out, thereby saving enormous amount of time.

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    Different ships in a single shipyard
    The monopoly of shipyards in producing a particular type of ship has been broken. Now, different ship types or classes are assembled and built in most of the shipyards.

    The Type 52D and Type 55 are being built at Jiangnan Changxing, popularly known as JNCX, along with the Yuanwang and MCMVs. In December 2016, there were at least 16 different ships being constructed at Jiangnan Changxing at a particular time.

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    Google Earth image of Jiangnan Changxing, where 16 ships are being built at a time. Source: Author

    Similarly, Dalian shipyard is constructing three Type 52D, two Type 55 and also the CV-17 at the same time.

    Recent trends indicate that larger shipyards like Hudong Zhonghua, Jiangnan Changxing and Dalian are constructing two ships of a class at any given time. In the case of Type 55, at both Dalian and Jiangnan Changxing they are being built simultaneously so that even the launch date would coincide.

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    It is also rumoured that the new facility for construction of CV (carrier vessel) will be able to construct two CVs at a time.

    Submarines
    The newly built facilities for construction of submarines at Huludao and Jiangnan Changxing are very large. The sizes of 290m X 135m are indicative that at any given time a minimum of four submarines will be under construction at these two yards.

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    Implications
    China is likely to produce ships at this fast pace for another 30 years. India needs to learn a thing or two from its adversary to improve its shipyards. Permitting private sector to participate in shipbuilding alone will not suffice. The public sector too has to be a willing and strong partner.

    Col Vinayak Bhat (retd) is a Military Intelligence veteran of the Indian Army with vast experience of satellite imagery analysis.

    He has worked as Chinese interpreter and is a specialist on PLA and Pakistan’s Armed Forces.

    https://theprint.in/2017/09/20/chinese-navy-built-83-ships-8-years/
     
  2. sangos

    sangos Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    And in how many years will how many ships breakdown disabled & drifting in the ocean?:troll:
     
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    RMFAN Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    There many Chinese Navy battle ships patrolling in the Gulf of Aden from time to time for the last 10 years. None of them broke down on the sea.

    Besides your jealousy, you have nothing.
     
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    Agent_47 Admin - Blog IDF NewBie

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    They have separate place to break down ?

    Slavery :bad:
     
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    RMFAN Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    This is called hardworking. These Chinese workers have high wages for such works. Such speed of ship building indicates the hardworking and sacrifices of the Chinese people. Your Indians have nothing but jealousy when facing such speed of ship building.
     
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    Anish BANNED BANNED

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    China has nothing close to DDG 1000 in terms of all 5 aspects.
     
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    Agent_47 Admin - Blog IDF NewBie

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    Stalin and Hitler would agree, some are hard workers. Yes entire world is jealous of slave army and cheap goods.
     
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    RMFAN Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    http://gcaptain.com/japan-overtakes-south-korea-in-shipbuilding/

    According to Clarskon Research data released Wednesday, in December 2016 Japan had a backlog of 20.64 million compensated gross tonnes (CGT), surpassing South Korea’s backlog of 19.91 CGT.

    China is still world’s largest shipbuilding nation with roughly 30 million CGT.

    Compared to the same time the previous year, South Korea’s had 31.08 CGT, compared to Japan’s 25.55 million CGT.

    The Korea Times reports that 2016 marks the first time in 17 years Korean shipbuilders have fewer ships to build than Japan.

    “This shocking overturn shows how dire the situation has become for Korean shipbuilders over the past few years,” an official at one of Korea’s three largest shipbuilders, told The Korea Times. “For the past two decades, Korea ruled the global shipbuilding industry. But now it is behind China and Japan in orders secured. Local shipbuilders must double their efforts to win new contracts in 2017.”
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    Chinese shipbuilding industry already is No.1 in the world right now. The Chinese civil shipbuilding industry has accumulated and cultivated many technologies , skillful workers and technicians for the last a few decades. And these factors become the main reasons why the Chinese Navy can build so many warships in fast speed.

    The Indian civil shipbuilding has no place in the world, therefore, it is expected that the Indian Navy shipbuilding is always in problems to produce warships in plan.
     
  9. RMFAN

    RMFAN Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Chinese cheap goods are exported to India in massive quantity so that these goods can destroy all the manufacturers in India and make trading surplus more than USD 50 billion per year. Meanwhile the best quality Chinese goods are sold in China, North America and EU.

    This is the fact. who cares you can take it or not.
     
  10. Vasu

    Vasu IDF NewBie

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    Chinese shipbuilding industry is working on a very large scale.Most of their ports have shipbuilding yards and dry docks for repair.Though their standard is not so good as Japanese and Korean,yet plenty of ships of all sizes and designs are built here.This is because of economics.They build cheaper and faster than Japanese and Korean.Korean are very good with automation and Japanese best build quality.Till now Chinese are using mostly outside machinery,but almost all the big companies (For ME,AE,Boilers,etc)have their service industry in China.
    Of lately,as shipping industry has slowed down,many of these ship building yards have closed down and have become bankrupt.
    Hence,they China may have slowed down but they already have built a good base which must be very helpful to their navy.

    I am not speaking here of Indian Naval Construction but compared to Chinese, Indian Commercial Shipbuilding is almost negligible.They work at a very slow pace,hardly build any ship and number of skilled people is less.Standard of construction is also very poor.Like Cochin Shipyard may take 6-7 years to produce an oil tanker which China produces in just over an year.Though present Indian Govt is trying to increase pace,like by building alliances with Korea,yet lot needs to be done.
     
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    Vasu IDF NewBie

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    Yes true.And hopefully present govt will take steps to put restrictions on imports.But your economy is in a financial mess.Your govt is artificially controlling yr exchange rate,have put hundred of billions of dollars to maintain sanity in stock market,yr real estate market bubble can burst anytime,you have exposed yourself to outside market by giving huge loans and taken risks to continue yr growth rate.Yr bubble will burst,and if it does it will give rise to political turmoil which you are inexperienced to control.
    On TV,out of 30 channels i see ,10 is of military,showing them as brave and noble.Rest all r boring.I cant use my google maps,google or go to other website.Everything is controlled.Its like,its citizens are caged parrot.
    So though i admire Chinese Infrastructure growth,there is no freedom of expression of thought and it makes it v boring.
     
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    RMFAN Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/jssd/2017-09-25/doc-ifymesii5444473.shtml


    Chinese private shipbuilding company, the Yangtze River shipbuilding company, in the first half of 2016, held a total of 89 shipments (totaling 4.48 million deadweight tons), order value: $ 4.7 billion, including 38 container ships, 47 bulk carriers, 2 liquefied natural gas vessels and 2 large liquefied gas ferry. Hand-held orders ranked first in China, fourth in the world.

    The company has one giant dry dock, 5 large and medium-sized berths , the annual shipbuilding production capacity of more than 1 million tons . their mainstream products are large bulk carriers and medium-sized multi-purpose ship. They have more than 50 years of experience in shipbuilding in container ships, marine engineering vessels, chemical tankers, multi-purpose vessels and bulk carriers.





    Another Chinese private shipbuilding company, Jiangsu Rongsheng Heavy Industry Group Co., Ltd., which has four large dry dock (102 × 465m, 102 × 530m, 106 × 530m, 139.5 × 580m), 900 tons of gantry crane x 3, one 1600 tons of gantry crane, 9 outfitting Wharf and 2 material wharf. With a leading domestic, world-class shipbuilding facilities and processing equipment.

    Their core products Suez oil tanker, world market share 30%, ranking first in the world. In 2008 the company and the largest company in South America, the world's second largest iron ore supplier Brazil Vale company, signed a order of 12 x 400000 tons ultra-large mineral transport ship, creating the world's largest tonnage bulk carrier in the world.
     
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    RMFAN Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    3 x type-052D destroyers under construction in Dalian shipyard.

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    RMFAN Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    China is now the most efficient shipbuilder beating the Korean
    Flashed the first of the 30 Chinese VLOC vessels of 400,000t, the largest in the world. Construction lasted 11 months.
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    China takes the dive, puts thrust on building nuclear submarines
    COLONEL VINAYAK BHAT (RETD) 23 October, 2017
    https://theprint.in/2017/10/23/china-takes-the-dive-puts-thrust-on-building-nuclear-submarines/
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    Huladao Nuclear Submarine Production Facility | Source: Vinayak Bhat
    Xi Jinping’s ‘China Dream’ gave boost to its Blue Water navy ambitions and funds were made available for the expansion of the nuclear submarine programme.

    Every country with Blue Water navy ambitions needs nuclear submarines to carry ballistic missiles quietly closer to its adversary’s shores. And that includes China’s People’s Liberation Army Navy (PLAN).

    China’s submarine force, especially the nuclear submarine force, has been derided by most Western analysts as the noisiest and therefore easily detectable. The chart below by the US Office of Naval Intelligence or ONI has been reproduced by many websites.

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    Hainin China subsound | Source: Vinayak Bhat
    China has pursued construction of its nuclear submarines with a single-minded determination and speed. China’s nuclear submarines or SSN count varies from 11 to 13 with four Type 91 Han-class (one not active) and 8 to 10 Type 93 Shang-class variants.

    The nuclear ballistic missiles carrying submarines or SSBN count is at least 7, with one Type 92 Xia-class and rest Type 94 Jin-class. The nuclear submarines of PLAN have all been constructed at Bohai Shipbuilding Heavy Industry Company Limited (BSHIC) at Huludao. The BSHIC is probably a subsidiary of China Shipbuilding Industry Corporation or CSIC.

    Expansion of production facility
    The Huludao facility felt the need for additional space when it started construction of Type 94 Jin-class submarines some time in 2005.Although the need for expansion was felt a while back, the project was constrained by the availability of funds. The expansion work was thus limited to land reclamation only, which continued from 2007 to 2013.

    Xi Jinping’s ‘China Dream’ gave boost to the Blue Water navy ambitions and possibly funds were made available for the expansion of BSHIC’s nuclear submarine programme. The new facility on the Eastern side of Bohai shipyard started construction in mid-2015. The construction became visible and clear by mid-2016.

    Gigantic new facility
    The gigantic nature of this facility was revealed when the assembly hall could be compared with Hall No. 42 of Russian Severodvinsk submarine construction facility.
    The size of BSHIC Huludao hall is 285 m x 130 m with more than 40,000 sq m area.

    The height is almost double the previous halls in that location. It has three bays with large overhead double girder magnet gantry cranes fitted it, which could easily shift/move submarine modules to and fro. The width of girders at the top of gantries is 9 m, suggesting they could lift very heavy loads.

    There is another hall of 200 m x 170 m being constructed to the north of this assembly hall. This probably will produce modules for submarines. It has five bays, two of which are smaller than others. Both the halls have traverser rails in front for transfer of modules from one hall to the other.

    Thus this new assembly hall could possibly construct six nuclear submarines at any given time. The hall not only provides the workers and equipment from harsh weather conditions of Huludao but also provides cover from the prying eyes of satellites that could learn about PLAN submarine progress.

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    Huludao Nuclear Submarine Assembly Hall | Source: Vinayak Bhat
    New submarine revealed
    A closer look while assessing this facility revealed some parts, possibly of a new submarine. The width of these parts is almost 16.5 m, suggesting the probable beam of the new submarine is more than 16.5 m. It is assessed that this new submarine which possibly is the new nuclear submarine of China’s PLAN Type 96 which is rumoured to have 24x Julang 3 or JL 3 ballistic missiles with an estimated range between 8,000 km to 12,000 km.

    A 16.5 m beam with approximately 4 m of hump would easily accommodate every Dong Feng or DF missile in China’s nuclear ballistic missiles inventory.

    Implications
    It is assessed that the new submarine production facility constructed at Huludao will enhance the speed of the Chinese PLAN nuclear submarine production by at least six times. Any increase in China’s equipment profile would have an effect on India’s security scenario. This particular capability would increase China’s abilities to snoop on Indian naval activities in the Indian Ocean Region and the Arabian Sea.

    China’s nuclear submarines have been visiting Karachi and Colombo. China has also been a supplier of submarines to Pakistan and Bangladesh. It will be interesting to watch if China would proliferate the new nuclear submarines to its favourite, Pakistan. The Julang 2 and 3 with 8,000 km or more range can cover the entire IOR with ease. The looming threat of Julang missiles will be omnipresent.

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    Julang Coverage | Source: Vinayak Bhat
     
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