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How to fake a missile test : Pakistan Navy fantasy achievement?

Discussion in 'South Asia & SAARC' started by BlackOpsIndia, Jan 10, 2017.

  1. BlackOpsIndia

    BlackOpsIndia Developers Guild Developers -IT and R&D

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    I am compiling all the falsehoods/suspicions of Pak SLCM test. Even when its proven time and again that Pak Army claims are based more on fantasy and falsehood instead of truth and its useless to waste time on them, please dont merge it with another thread, lets have an objective discussion free of our bias.

    Official Pak army press release:
    https://www.ispr.gov.pk/front/main.asp?o=t-press_release&id=3671

    No PR14/2017-ISPR, Dated: January 9, 2017

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    Missile : Babur 3
    Range: 450 Km
    Location: Somewhere in Indian Ocean!

    I am compiling arguments made by multiple posters at various places.
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    No NOTAM (Notification for Airmen) or NAVAREA warning:

    It is standard practice for Navies to issue NOTAM and NAVAREA warning before missile test for the safety of ships and fisherman. In this case we are not able to find any NOTAM or NAVAREA warning which makes this test suspicious.
    Counter Argument: Pak Navy didnt issue such warning and deliberately risked lives of people to keep the test secret or Pak Navy is unaware/incapable of such technicalities/they issued the warning we are not able to find it.


    Location: Undisclosed, somewhere in Indian Ocean:

    As pointed out by @Indx TechStyle Firstly you cant test from undisclosed location due to NOTAM, NAVAREA warning as argued previously, you may test an undisclosed strategic weapon from a disclosed location but you can't test (disclosed or undisclosed) any type of strategic weapon from an undisclosed location.



    Color and Shape Changing Missile:


    No I am not making this up. This is tweet from ISPR Official Spokesperson releasing the video of missile test.


    Same video as backup on youtube incase the tweet get deleted


    Forward to 7 seconds:
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    No missile wings, only tail fins.
    Color: Grey.

    Fast Foward to 17 seconds:
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    Missile wings magically appear.
    Color: Changes to red.

    Color change and shape change in middle of flight?

    Now download the video or play it in slow motion over youtube, at early 26 seconds, the color changes back to white!
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    No condemnation from any country in world!

    Most of the time when any third world country tests a missile the WMD mass producer west get ironically outraged, more so when its India or Pakistan but in this case nothing happened infact this article on NDTV is interesting:

    http://khabar.ndtv.com/news/world/p...-sources-tell-ndtv-1647234?pfrom=home-moretop

    For non Hindi users NDTV talked to some sources in Indian Navy and they all denied any missile test by Pakistan.

    Some more from dailyio.

    How an Indian military expert sunk Pakistan's 'fake nuclear missile test'

    http://www.dailyo.in/politics/pakis...ests-cgi-nuclear-arms-race/story/1/15022.html
     
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  2. BlackOpsIndia

    BlackOpsIndia Developers Guild Developers -IT and R&D

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    @mods @Hellfire @PARIKRAMA

    why dont we remove all those replies from Pak missile test and attach here, only the one presenting counter to fake missile test?

    A separate thread so that it doesnt get lost into 8 pages of missile test news, these kinds of threads works well on search engines and users can get information years later by these threads. You can append the replies to this thread, I want no credit for others work, just a compilation dedicated for fakeness, more like a fake memorial.
     
  3. vstol jockey

    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    One of the biggest mistakes which has been done by many people who have analysed this video is that they have failed to notice that at 19s, there are actually two missiles flying.
    upload_2017-1-10_20-19-3.png

    Please move the video frame by frame and you will see these two missiles. This clearly shows that they have done a very shoddy job of mixing two separate films to make this clip.
     
  4. vsdoc

    vsdoc 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    Interesting.
     
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    BlackOpsIndia Developers Guild Developers -IT and R&D

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    Its not two missiles flying, its actually an effect, overlay fade out effect for joining two clips, creating an illusion of two missiles flying.
     
  6. VCheng

    VCheng RIDER GEO STRATEGIC ANALYST

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    Not really. Anybody attempting to analyze such imagery should know that SLCMs have foldable wings that pop out after launch.
     
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    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    The upper missile is flying over land while the lower one has just crossed the coast. How can this be possible? May be Pak has tested a kind of missile which can actually be at two different places due to its outstanding electronic abilities wherein it can create its own virtual image at a different place and in the same time frame.
     
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    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    If they wanted to use fade out, why have they not done it for the initial launch sequence? There they have a cut followed by next clip.
     
  9. BlackOpsIndia

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    Yeah they pop out exactly after launch or few seconds after the launch when missile gets the altitude, not in really in midflight.
     
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    Aqwoyk Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    it's frame mixing
     
  11. VCheng

    VCheng RIDER GEO STRATEGIC ANALYST

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    It depends on the flight profile.
     
  12. BlackOpsIndia

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    Possible.
     
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    Ripcord322 Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    AFAIK they pop out in the 'Cruise Phase'....Not the 'Boost Phase'.....
     
  14. vsdoc

    vsdoc 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    Bro u know im not an army techie.

    What I find interesting is the sociological pathology being exhibited.

    One normally does not relate subterfuge and hot air to Pakistan.
     
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    vsdoc 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    P.S. typing this out from sunny San Francisco. Want to.meet up?
     
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