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Hypersonic Space Bomber

Discussion in 'Europe & Russia' started by randomradio, Jul 17, 2016.

  1. randomradio

    randomradio Mod Staff Member MODERATOR

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    http://www.pravdareport.com/russia/kremlin/13-07-2016/134999-russia_space_bomber-0/

    Russia is developing a hypersonic strategic bomber capable of striking nuclear blows from space. The aircraft will be able to reach any part of the globe in one or two hours.

    Representative of the Military Academy of the Russian Strategic Missile Forces (RVSN), Colonel Alexei Solodovnikov, told RIA Novosti that the prototype of the engine of the new aircraft is to be created by 2020.

    "The idea is as follows. The aircraft will take off from conventional airfields to patrol airspace. It will be able to fly into space when there is an appropriate order for it. The aircraft will be able to strike targets from space, including with the use of nuclear weapons, before flying back to its airfield. This is a strategic aircraft," Solodovnikov.

    According to the Lieutenant Colonel, the bomber aircraft will be able to reach any location in the world in one or two hours.

    The new aircraft will be developed by the Central Aero-Hydrodynamic Institute. Specialists currently work on the characteristics of the aircraft. "I think that the starting weight will be around 20-25 tons, so it could be an attack aircraft. It will be a hypersonic rocket mode machine," the official added.

    Alexei Solodovnikov, who works as a teacher at the academy, is ф developer of the engine for the future aircraft, RBC reports.

    "When we sort the basic aspects out, we will proceed to making the engine. During the second year of our work, in 2018, we will work on the hull. The aircraft is to fly in 2020," the specialists said, adding that the aircraft will have a turbofan engine.

    "The engine will be able to operate both in the atmosphere of the planet and in near-Earth space, where there is no air. It will be one platform for both aircraft and rocket engines," the specialist said. Currently, Russia does not have such engines, he added.

    In July, Russian officials said that the sixth-generation aircraft will be produced in a manned and unmanned version. It will be able to operate in a group of other aircraft and fly into near-Earth space.

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    Well...the US announced plans for the SR-72, Russia would have to come up with a comparable, if not better, project sooner or later.

    Either way, the concept of combined-cycle propulsion that can operate within & outside atmosphere is getting more & more prominent.
     
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    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    If you remember I had written here that in next two decades we will be fighting air battles from space and stealth as such will hold no meaning.
     
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    Stealth is still very important. This new bomber will also be stealthy.
     
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    Trappier, ceo of Dassault, said next fighter gen will probably able to go in the near space to fight ! all goes in the same way it seems.
     
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    Kinetic energy 'rods from God' become a real possibility too. 6 ton lump at 10km/s would give a blast equivalent to ~120 tons of TNT.
     
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    Not with the kind of heat generation required for that speed.

    I will also suggest that 20-25 tonnes seems impossibly light for anything with strategic range, let alone something that fast, unless it's nuclear propulsion. It's lighter than a PAK-FA. Even if it's empty weight it's light.
     
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    What heat? It's meant to go into space and move from there.

    Wrong. All it needs is fuel to go up, when it comes down, it's gonna glide down like the Space Shuttle. We are not yet in the Star Wars era.
     
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    The burn required to get there will be picked up on SBIR S. (Cursed auto currency.)


    But how does return?

    No mind, a SpaceX type system could launch ballistic warheads or glide vehicle warheads and land again directly.
     
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    Once it is in outerspace, it won't emit enough heat to be picked up. Also, the heat emitted will be much lower than a ballistic missile. Plus, a spaceship of this sort will have an unpredictable trajectory.

    A spaceship of this sort will take off like a regular aircraft, use scramjet to achieve escape velocity and then switch to cryogenics or semi-cryogenics to maneuver in space.

    It goes into orbit. Once in orbit, you use very little fuel. And a return is basically a reentry. It only needs enough fuel for course correction while it glides back.

    A Space Shuttle doesn't fly back to the earth, it glides.
     
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    A space shuttle is slightly more than 20 tons though.

    VHF radar to detect to low accuracy, SM-3 Blk 2A.
     
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    That orbiter can carry 27 tons to LEO, the spaceship only has to carry two cruise missiles.

    That's not going to help a lot against highly maneuverable spaceships.
     
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    Which will require shielding. Seems too small.

    It can hit smaller, more manoeuvrable MaRVs. It manoeuvres using the same method that the ship does, but it's lighter.
     
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    Warheads are very small.

    You need a ground SAM type agility to hit a spaceship. Right now I don't think even the technology to hit a maneuverable spaceship exists. It will have to be developed from scratch.
     

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