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Hypothetical: India Pakistan war in 2017 under China's threat

Discussion in 'International Relations' started by TSUNAMI, Feb 5, 2013.

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  1. TSUNAMI

    TSUNAMI Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    Hi guys.....


    IAF in 2017

    SU-30 MKI ~ 270
    Mirage ~ 45+,
    Mig-29 ~ 65,
    Tejas Mk-1 ~ 40
    Jaguars ~ 110

    I don't think Rafale and Tejas Mk-2 will be inducted by then...
    and considering Mig -21 and Mig -27 retired...
    So overall some 530+ fighters...


    PAF in 2017

    JF-17 ~ 125
    F-16 ~ 80
    J-10 ~ 36
    J-7 ~ 150

    considering Mirage 3/5 retired...
    So overall approx 390 fighters....

    Please consider China's threat in mind how much force we have to apply on eastern border when China showing some aggressive Indication on India.
    Please consider IA, PA and PLA in discussion....

    In my opinion IAF will be in weakest condition at that time compared all previous wars....

    [​IMG]
     
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    Marqueur Peaceful Silence ELITE MEMBER

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    I'll sleep on it?
     
  3. TSUNAMI

    TSUNAMI Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    Possible Size of PLAAF in 2017...

    J-10 A ~ 250
    J-10 B ~ 100
    J-11 A ~ 200
    J-11 B ~ 100
    J- 7 ~ 150
    SU-27+SU-30 ~ 150
    Approx total 1100 to 1200 fighters....

    I don't think China will help Pakistan in any war but just calculating numbers.....
     
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    Foxtrot Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    Man....you have just started a troll fest thread....
     
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    Vritra Major ELITE MEMBER

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    Wow. This is going to go well.
     
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    SajeevJino Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    better you Need to add their AAD's and EW planes

    That's add the Normal fighter become Lethal one
     
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    TSUNAMI Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    As per AAD's I need help, Simply quoting wiki will not work here....... :tongue:

    As per EW planes by 2017

    IAF

    6 Phalcon AWACS
    6 DRDO AEW&C (I don't think DRDO can deliver more then that by 2017)

    PAF

    4 Shaanxi ZDK-03 AWACS
    4 Saab 2000 Erieye AEW&C

    So on this front more or less both AirForces are same....

    Also...

    IAF Aerial Refueling

    Ilyushin Il-78 MKI ~ 7
    AirBus A-330 ~ 6(IAF can order more but by 2017 only that much will be available)

    PAF Aerial Refueling

    Ilyushin Il-78 ~ 4(These are modified to this role)

    IAF here is superior but for Pakistan Aerial Refueling is not so much required....
     
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    TSUNAMI Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    That will be interesting....
     
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    TSUNAMI Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    IAF Attack Helicopter

    Mi-35 ~ 20
    Apache AH-64D Block III ~ 40(Currently 22 on order but going by history order will surely increase so by 2017 considering 40)
    HAL LCH ~ 40-50 (May be by 2015 they ll be operational and by 2017 40-50 both in IAF and IA at max)
    Rudra ~ 70

    PAF Attack Helicopter

    ??????
     
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    Mirage 3/5 will still be in service for the Pakistan Air Force.

    So some of your upgraded MiG-21s.

    J-10s have not been ordered by the Pakistan Air Force, and may not be ordered in its current form.
     
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    if there will be a war then dont forget about army and navy....
     
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    Your Mirage 3 are almost 45 years And Mirage 5 are 40 years old now....
    Most of your J-7 are to be replaced by 2015 also

    In my calculation I have considered 150 J-7

    You can consider it as
    J-7+ Mirage 3 + Mirage 5 ~ 150

    IAF Mig-21 and Mig-27 are also too much old and there are countless sources that these machines will be retired by 2017.

    J-10 here is referred as J-10 B's(FC-20) but surely it is questionable??

    Also PAF F-16 will be in some 70 in number(I forgot to calculate 9 crashes)

    Also if IAF increase number of Rafale deal then may be we can have 2 squadron directly delivered from France....

    Overall I have consider best case for PAF and worst case for IAF......
     
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    Guys Please help in terms of Air defence capability of both the forces and UCAV fleet of 2017.....
     
  14. ali jihadi

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    pakistan has got advanced spada 2000 air defence system
     
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    Numbers please...... Deployment upto 2017???

    India Surface-to-air missile systems

    Akash ~ 3000 (2000 IA and 1000 IAF Assuming Induction will be complete by 2017 but not considering Akash Mk-2)

    9K31 Strela-1 ~ 400

    9K33 Osa ~ 80

    Anti-Aircraft Guns and Artillery

    9K22 Tunguska ~ 130

    ZSU-23-4M 'Shilka' ~ 100

    Bofors L40/70 ~ 1920

    Bofors L40/60 ~ 1280

    ZSU-23-2 ~ 800
     
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