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IAF commandos “Garudâ€￾ to be deployed for anti-Naxal operations

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  1. SpArK

    SpArK SorCeroR Staff Member ADMINISTRATOR

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    IAF commandos “Garudâ€￾ to be deployed for anti-Naxal operations

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    The Union Cabinet Committee on Security recently gave a go-ahead to the Indian Air Force’s (IAF) proposal to deploy commandos on the choppers being used in the Naxal-infested areas for the security of the IAF personnel onboard in case of an attack.Also the commandos deployed from the special forces unit of the force can fire back in case of an attack.

    In November 2008, an IAF Mi-17 helicopter deployed on election duty in Chattisgarh was attacked by Naxals in Bijapur district.
    The chopper that came under heavy machine gun fire damaged the rotors, engine and killed a flight engineer who was onboard.
    Post this the IAF had sought permission for deployment of armed personnel onboard these choppers used in Naxal infested areas for casualty evacuation. IAF choppers are presently being used in most affected areas of Chattisgarh and Maharashtra.

    The force earlier sought permission to launch machine guns which would be mounted on the helicopter flying in these areas but it was turned down. But an armed commando carrying firearms like the INSAS rifle would be flying with the helicopter staff.

    “The Garud commando force of the IAF has been chosen for the task and they have been flying on the choppers for past few months. They were selected for this job for the security of the helicopter and the IAF staff onboard as they have to fly at very low altitudes in these areas and could face an attack any timeâ€￾ said a senior defence personnel.

    The main task of the Garud commandos is the protection of critical Air Force bases and installations, search and rescue during peace and hostilities and disaster relief during calamities.
    The protection of choppers deployed in these areas involves several measures such as the air crew wearing body armours and the chopper having armoured panels so that in case of an attack the aircraft does not get damaged.

    Also there have been intelligence reports that Naxals were in possession of rockets which could be used to attack aircrafts so the armoured body of chopper would further help in protecting it and the personnel from such attacks.

    The landing pads in these areas are being checked thoroughly and then sanitised so that there is no threat while landing in those areas.

    “Garuds have been flying in the IAF choppers in these areas and they have been only deployed for defensive action rather than an launching an offensive. They would only fire in case they are fired at. The deployment has been done only for one purpose and that is for protection or self defence of IAF staffers onboard the choppersâ€￾ said a defence spokesperson.

    IAF commandos “Garudâ€￾ to be deployed for anti-Naxal operations | idrw.org
     
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  2. xXX-Nair:::Saab-XXx

    xXX-Nair:::Saab-XXx Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    great news!!!:tup:
     
  3. bhagat

    bhagat 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    hey sparky....i am just going to post this article.....lol
     
  4. SpArK

    SpArK SorCeroR Staff Member ADMINISTRATOR

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    Sorry mate.. that news was too hot to resist..

    Garuds in jungles.

    The Naxals gonna cry Meow Meow from Mao Mao.
     
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    Karthic Sri <b>STAR MEMBER of the MONTH</b> SENIOR MEMBER

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    Wrong move.

    These commandoes are a freaking SF who are to operate behind enemy lines and in case of Garuds specifically to protect the IAF assets in times of war.

    Instead raise a special force for combating this menace like the RR were raised specifically for the Kashmir insurgency, impart better jungle training and supply better equipments along with the usage of UAVs for intel gathering . That is the only way and not these kinda stop gap methods.

    The Grey hounds of Andhra were a good move and a success. it needs to be replicated in the central Indian states also.
     
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    Patrician Lieutenant SENIOR MEMBER

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    It's a sign that so far we have failed to contain the Maoists and now we have to escalate the level of engagement.
     
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    bhagat 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    i think it's not a good idea to deploy garuds for anti-Naxal operations ......Instead of deploying garuds center must encourage each state to develop a force Andhra Pradesh's elite anti-Naxal force Greyhounds
     
  8. Young Wolf

    Young Wolf 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    Garuds are also trained for jungle warfare and counter insurgency at CIJWS (or so it says on wiki)
     
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    SpArK SorCeroR Staff Member ADMINISTRATOR

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    Plans were there since 2008.. So they should have had special training.

    Uttar Pradesh,October 08(ANI):On the sidelines of the 77th Air Force Day celebrations at Hindon in Uttar Pradesh,Air Chief Marshal PV Naik announced that it will deploy Garud Special Forces on its helicopters while operating in the Maoist infested areas.The Indian Air Force is awaiting a nod from the Government,which is most likely to come on Thursday after a meeting of the Union Cabinet regarding the matter.


     
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    Sancho Lt. Colonel IDF NewBie

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    Isn't that what they do here as well? In case an helicopter is under attack, they will try to protect it.

    I guess that is the problem, the Kashmir issue was mainly forced from abroad the border, that's why our forces were deployed, anti-Naxal operations instead are an internal matter and "normally" remains in the responsibility of police, or other internal forces. I guess that makes it so difficult for IAF, IA to get involved here.
    Pretty difficult issue, because in has to be dealt according to our laws, but might be too big for normal police forces alone. :undecided:
     
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    Nice move. It will give the Garuds a lot of operational experience as it is has been recently formed.
     
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    It may give them experience but not operational experience because its not their duty or primary operation for what they are formed. GOD GARUD BEHIND NAXAL sure they NAXAL will run out of hiding place but is it really what we need our SF to do ? Run behind our own people :nono: i will be more happy if they are sent behind dawood ibrahim and his gang out side India:yahoo:
     
  13. veteran

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    These bunch of soldiers are trained to work under any given situation whatsoever. IAF wants 2 things out of this deployment.
    1. In case of an ambush situation air cover will prove vital in securing lives of those on ground.

    2. To make sure that IAF personnels on board are secured in case they are attacked by Naxals.( In case chopper has to do an emergency landing in naxal areas.)


    lets talk about experience. i guess this is a good move. we always talk about grey hounds but remember they are not as skilled as GARUD's in airborne operation. you cannot simply put some guys with guns on a chopper to protect it. it is very hard and requires intense training to shoot down with accuracy which our GARUD hold's.
     
  14. Mr.Ryu

    Mr.Ryu Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    But
    1) Being ambushed by NAXALS is it self shows we are not well trained and not following standard procedures but it does happen, so we have to train people on ground to counter ambush and develop network to prevent it.Do you think GARUDS will be pressed in every ambush situation or they will be always present ?

    2) YES 100% agreed but in first place why operate when you know it's enemy territory every air assets must operate when they know the area is secured. Just sending a chopper to rescue 10-15 police or other agents who are pinned down is suicidal these 10-15 persons must be trained to at least defend the horse that is coming to rescue. If you have some 5 GARUD in Rescue chopper to protect the chopper then you are reducing the capacity of rescue mission by 5 lives.

    And regarding experience if grey hounds are not skilled as GARUD'S then better train them to be its Training Training and nothing else GARUD'S did not come from some special breed but they are turned into one by Training then why cant we train others. At last GARUD is just a name it's the people who are under it are extremely skilled due to training. You can ask a GARUD's what its to be one i am sure most will response that it's their intense Training that has given them the edge.

    So using GARUD's inside our Territory is not what i want mate.
     
  15. IndianArmy

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    It is very Surprising to Know and at the same time Sad , that the Police Commandos trained from CIJWS are not in a Position to Neutralize the Area before any Flight movement takes place which Has Pushed a Military Wing of Ours to get into the scene...

    Garuds Might be Armed and Skilled But certainly not one of there defined roles to neutralize the Area Where The Police commandos have already been stationed.... The Garuds Might only fire in self defense but there Roles Might be escalated to Covert Operations in Dense jungles....

    Garuds are War time Assets of Indian Airforce not Mere Air Asset Guards.
     
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