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IAF gunships to conduct surveillance at Sabarimala

Discussion in 'Indian Air Force' started by R!CK, Dec 5, 2016.

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  1. R!CK

    R!CK 2nd Lieutant Technical Analyst

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    The Indian Air Force (IAF) and Navy have deployed their MI-17 V-5 gunships to fly low level aerial reconnaissance and surveillance sorties over Sabarimala from Monday.

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    Inspector General of Police, Thiruvananthapuram Range, Manoj Abraham, told The Hindu that intelligence reports that extremist elements could use forest routes to assail the temple or pilgrims groups had prompted the unusual move.

    The intelligence forecasts were credible but not specific on details. However, they elaborated on certain operational tactics terrorist could adopt.

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    The State police have found the reports too compelling to ignore in the background of global terrorist threat. They had developed a counter with the aid of the defence forces, top officials said.

    Official sources said that at least three helicopters would be involved in the operation. They would fly out from bases in Thiruvananthapuram and Kochi. The gunships would have Army paratroopers on board. The State police commandos with local terrain knowledge would accompany them as point-men.

    The IAF would survey the helipad at Nilackal for potential use as forward operating and logistics base.

    The gunships could remain air-borne for several hours without refuelling. Auxiliary fuel tanks enhanced their endurance. The helicopters were kitted out with thermal and long range imaging devices that equip them to conduct wide area surveillance under varied weather and light conditions.

    The MI-17 V-5 were famously used by the National Security Guards to carry out an airborne assault on Chabad House which was taken over by terrorists during the September 2008 sea-borne armed suicide attack in Mumbai. They were also used to ferry troops to the LoC for “surgical strikes on terrorist camps” in September this year.

    Officials said the armoured helicopters would carry air-to-ground missiles and machine guns along with surveillance equipment. They would be at least 36 special troops on board with assault weapons, body armour, and allied weaponry. The police would study the reconnaissance reports in detail to calibrate and optimise their deployment on the ground.

    http://www.thehindu.com/news/nation...urveillance-at-Sabarimala/article16759960.ece
     
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    nair Die hard Romeo Staff Member ADMINISTRATOR

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    Been there yest.... security checks were unpresidented.... Those who have been there would vouch that sabarimala is a very easy target for such attacks.... the terrains, forest cover, crowd,cramped infra and the ignorant devotees....

    But the likely chances of targeting sabarimala is very low..... due to the traditions and business Interests....
     
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    You only need 1 bullet to fire into the sky. The resulting stampede will kill hundreds.

    There needs to be organized movement of public - very strict ins & outs in every such religious place where thousands visit each day. The public itself cannot be expected to follow rules of conduct & wait their turn, it's just not in our DNA. The only way to maintain order (whether it's in common practice or during an emergency) is by making sure the RIGHT way is the ONLY way there is. A review of all such places is needed - incorporate pathways and security as an integral part of the locale (most of the current infrastructure looks like an afterthought), have dedicated tactical response teams ready at every such place, and have very strict surveillance and identity checks. Don't even need to care all that much about public's inconvenience...you can strip search everyone twice a day and they'll still keep coming.

    People keep faith in god not out of devotion, but out of fear.

    The government & tax/revenue departments need to take full advantage of this fear - the income from these places is in lakhs of crores. All this should go only to the government, not to any stupid Trusts managed by shady background figures.

    @PARIKRAMA @randomradio @Abingdonboy @Levina @R!CK
     
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    Levina Admin- Social media Staff Member ADMINISTRATOR

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    Oh!
    How can one forget that Mi-17 helicopters were used to ferry around 60 special forces fighters to carry out the surgical strikes. :)
    I've seen Russians doing some really crazy stuff with their MI-17 and also our Indian pilots flying them really low during RD parade. Its supposed to be a thick skinned beast. Luv it!

    You got it wrong there. Indians are among the most well behaved when outside India. Lol
    Now beat this- A sub contractor who was looking after Sabrimala's security drone operations posted the images and video on youtube. How intelligent is that!!!
    All the security arrangements watered down with a silly mistake.

    I'm all for the govt keeping a tab over the income of religious places. India being a religious country has thousands flocking to temples during festivals. Devotees are easy targets for the terrorists.
     
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    nair Die hard Romeo Staff Member ADMINISTRATOR

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    Well I am a long time ayyappa devotee and visit the temple every year...... But It is a disaster waiting......The temple and the area is designed in a era when the word "Terrorism" was not even in dictionary..... not only that the basic design is to accomodate few thousand devotees a day...... But over a period of time the number has been increasing steadily and current status says there are about 3 crore plus people visit the temple in a season.... which is believed to be the second highest afrer macca.... If things are running smooth then it is becasue of the relentless effort of Kerala police with the blessings of ayyappa...... Even in a tragedy the evacuation is a night mare, with 1 ambulance in service near the temple.......

    Actually these gunships are there to scare those who would like to plan something.... Otherwise they are useless......
     
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    rockstar 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    I think we should open the temple for more days, i.e 10-12 days every malayalam month instead of 5 to control the rush.
     
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    I don't think that's going to make a difference.... as the seasonal rush is going to be there.....i guess they at doing slowly.... this year swami ayyappan road has concerted and ambulances started from sannidhanam... should plan helicopter service for emergency evacuation....
     

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