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India eyes Russian S-400 Triumf + associated news

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  1. arulcharles

    arulcharles Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    India eyes safer skies with Russian S-400 Triumf

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    NEW DELHI: In what could be a game-changing arms acquisition, India is planning to acquire the new-generation Russian S-400 Triumf air defence missile systems that can destroy incoming hostile aircraft, stealth fighters, missiles and drones at ranges of up to 400-km.

    Sources say the defence acquisitions council (DAC), chaired by Manohar Parrikar, will "soon" take up the proposal moved by the IAF to purchase around a dozen S-400 long-range systems from Russia.

    "The project is at an initial stage at present. But it will be a government-to-government contract when it is finalized, with the S-400 systems being inducted over several years," said a defence ministry source.

    The procurement proposal comes ahead of Parrikar's impending visit to Russia, which will be followed by the Modi-Putin summit in Moscow in December. It also comes around a year after China sealed a $3 billion deal with Russia for acquisition of six S-400 batteries.

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    China is slated to get the S-400 batteries, which is designated `SA-21 Growler' by NATO and rivals the anti-ballistic missile capabilities of the US Patriot PAC-3 system, from 2017 onwards.

    Countries locked in territorial disputes with China in the East and South China Seas, ranging from Japan and Taiwan to Vietnam and the Philippines, are all worried at the prospect of the People's Liberation Army getting such a force-multiplier to dominate the airspace. India obviously is also wary of China acquiring such a military capability, even if it is defensive in nature, since it can make all the difference during a conflict.

    The S-400 basically has three kinds of missiles, with different capabilities, that can fly at supersonic and hypersonic speeds to intercept all kinds of targets at ranges from 120 to 400-km. Russian experts even proclaim the S-400 surface-to-air missile (SAM) system can "radar lock and shoot down" stealth fifth-generation fighters like the American F-35 jets.

    India, on its part, is now belatedly trying to plug the gaping holes in its airspace surveillance and defence network with progressive induction of a wide array of sensors and weapons.

    With both IAF, tasked with the country's air defence, and Army saddled with increasingly obsolete air defence weapons, the ongoing induction of the indigenous 25-km range Akash area defence system has come as a major relief for them.

    Induction of the Israeli Spyder low-level quick-reaction missile systems, with a 15-km range, is now planned from 2016-2017 onwards. The project was stuck since the Tatra trucks -- on which the missile systems were to be mounted - had got enmeshed in corruption scandals. The contract was recently amended to replace the Tatra trucks with Tata trucks.

    Deliveries of the medium-range SAM systems jointly developed by Israeli Aerospace Industries and DRDO, with an interception range of 70-km, will also begin from 2016-2017.

    Along with induction of these weapons, IAF is also now expanding its fully-automated surveillance network called IACCS (integrated air command and control system) to the entire country, with the cabinet committee on security recently approving another Rs 8,000 crore for the project. Eventually, the Army and Navy's Akash Teer and Triguna air defence networks will be integrated with the IACCS.

    India eyes safer skies with Russian S-400 Triumf - The Times of India
     
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  2. vstol jockey

    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    Our Present Def Min has all the money available to buy what he prioritises but has no money for Rafale.
     
  3. randomradio

    randomradio Mod Staff Member MODERATOR

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    India has the money to buy both PAK FA/FGFA and Rafale. They are just playing politics now.

    But I don't get why we need the S-400 when we we have started the second phase of the BMD program. Their induction timelines could be quite similar. But it could be a stop gap since we need only 10-12 systems.
     
  4. Picdelamirand-oil

    Picdelamirand-oil Lt. Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    No he just needs to have the money in 15 years when negociations will end.
     
  5. Paliwal Warrior

    Paliwal Warrior Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    good now that you see the writing on the wall and what we the Tejas - DESI - fanboys have been saying all along

    that the 36 rafale deal will also be tough to negotiate - should not be taken for granted and - the negotiations may go into a never ending spiral like that of MMRCA
     
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    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    BMD is for protection of cities and S-400 is for protection of strike corps and IBGs. That's why this number of 10-12 batteries.
     
  7. Picdelamirand-oil

    Picdelamirand-oil Lt. Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    I already said you that I hope we will not sell you these Rafale.
     
  8. Paliwal Warrior

    Paliwal Warrior Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    good riddance

    I hop[e your govt & Dasault Mirror your sentiments and act on your wishes
     
  9. Picdelamirand-oil

    Picdelamirand-oil Lt. Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    No risks, they must comply with the agreements they have signed with MODI.
     
  10. DrSomnath999

    DrSomnath999 Major RESEARCHER

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    @ :dude:

    S400 anti BM capabilty is limited .One cannot say it's a true ABM system .

    S400 is good anti air defence system that too long range .we lagged that

    S500 is an improved System with acceptable ABM capability

    CHEERS
     
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  11. randomradio

    randomradio Mod Staff Member MODERATOR

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    What's the difference?

    And this project is for the IAF not the IA. If it was meant for the strike corps, the army would have asked for it.
     
  12. randomradio

    randomradio Mod Staff Member MODERATOR

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    S-400 has full BMD capability. It is a BMD system similar to PDV and AAD.
     
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    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    Its an area weapon and can provide AD to a large frontage including airbases close to the border.
     
  14. Paliwal Warrior

    Paliwal Warrior Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    good riddance

    I hop[e your govt & Dasault Mirror your sentiments and

    they have NOT YET signed any agreements with Modi

    They just made a joint declaration

    and they are already going back on it by look of press reprots
     
  15. DrSomnath999

    DrSomnath999 Major RESEARCHER

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    S 400 bmd capabilty is an addon feature of it's SAM capabilty
    it's engagement range vertically (altitude wise) is less than than india PAD max 80km compare to 60km (S 4000

    india's own aesa radar of BMD is better compare to their radar

    many more points are there too ,

    S500 is much improved system ,some latest version of S400 incoporates S500 tech

    india would use it's own anti missile shield ,BTW as far as i know india had evaluted earliear S400 for it's ABM system but it didnt met it's ABM objectives
    set by india

    CHEERS
     

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