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India eyes Russian S-400 Triumf + associated news

Discussion in 'Indian Military Doctrine' started by arulcharles, Oct 11, 2015.

  1. randomradio

    randomradio Colonel REGISTERED

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    I know. But it's good to have stuff in open source. The good news is most of that will be signed this year. That's the important part.
     
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    Modi, Putin to sign $1 billion Kamov chopper deal during Goa BRICS summit
    India and Russia are likely to sign a nearly $ 1 billion Kamov-226 chopper deal on the sidelines of Goa BRICS summit on Saturday, when Prime Minister Narendra Modi and President Vladimir Putin hold bilateral discussions.

    IndiaToday.in | Edited by Prabhash K Dutta
    desk-itgd@intoday.com
    New Delhi, October 13, 2016 | UPDATED 17:24 IST


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    Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Russian President Vladimir Putin.


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      India and Russia are all set to sign Kamov-226T chopper deal during Goa BRICS summit.

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      India will buy 200 Ka-226T helicopters from Russia.

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      The deal involves production of a part of the consignment of Kamov choppers in India.
    Keeping in tune with the government's focus on Make in India, Prime Minister [​IMG]Narendra Modi and President Vladimir Putin are all set to sign the Kamov 226T chopper deal during the BRICS summit on Saturday.

    It is a $ 1 billion deal for joint production and export of 200 Ka-226T choppers. The preliminary contract for 200 helicopters was signed during PM Modi's Russia tour.

    KAMOV DEAL

    Kamov-226T is a light multipurpose helicopter, which is designed to work in tough conditions of high mountains, hot-arid climate, and marine-oceanic areas. It is manufactured by the Russian Helicopters.

    Ka-226T choppers are useful in reconnaissance, targeting and monitoring of transportation of upto 1,500 kg load. It can carry seven soldiers or service professionals at a maximum cruise speed of 220 kmph and a maximum takeoff weight of 3,600 kg.

    The Kamov chopper deal is aimed at replacing India's ageing Cheetah and Chetak helicopters.


    CLOSE DEFENCE COOPERATION

    "The contract for export and joint production of 200 Ka-226T helicopters is one of the key projects in the framework of trade and industrial relations between Russia and India. We plan to expand them in both military-technical and civilian areas," PTI quoted Sergei Chemezov, head of Rostec, as saying.

    Rostec is a Russian state corporation, founded in 2007, bringing together about 700 firms to promote, develop and export products of civil and military use. Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) could be the partner of Rostec in the deal.


    OTHER DEALS

    Some other deals between India and Russia are also in the offing.

    S-400 Air Defence Missile System: It is very crucial missile defence shield. Also called S-400 Triumf, it is the most advanced weapon in the Russian arsenal. It is capable of shooting down the most advancd fighter jet of the US- F-35. India is learnt to be looking at 5 systems. India is the only the second country after China to be working on acquiring this system

    Mi-17 V-5 medium lift transport helicopters: Talks for procurement of 48 helicopters for the IAF are underway. India has been relying extensively on the Mi-17 for its transport helicopter fleet.

    BMP: It is an armoured personnel carrier. To augment the existing fleet of infantry Combat vehicles, Indian Army is learnt to be looking for more than 100 upgraded BMPs from Russia.

    2 Diesel-electric submarines: Russian media has reported that India is considering purchase of Varshayanka class Diesel-electric submarines to augment the Indian Navy submarine fleet

    Leasing another nuclear powered submarine: Russian media also reported that India was in talks with Russia for lease of a nuclear powered submarine for a stronger presence in the Indian ocean region.

    PUTIN BACKS INDIA

    President Vladimir Putin called India on Thursday Russia's 'privileged strategic partner'. He underlined that his county remained the top supplier of advanced weapons and defence technology to India.

    Putin backed India in its fight against terrorism saying that Moscow and other BRICS nations were determined to back New Delhi's anti-terror fight.

    (With inputs from agencies)




    http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/...-brics-summit-s-400-triumf-f-35/1/786036.html
     
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  3. randomradio

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    The Varshayanka is an obvious choice.

    So it looks like the biggest AF deals will be FGFA, MKI upgrade and S-400.

    The biggest navy deals will be submarines. Whatever happened to the Tu-22s?

    The biggest army deals will be helicopters. Even the T-90?
     
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  4. seiko

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    Random, I was mentioning things which are in open source..Additional reactors and FGFA discussions were going on much before decisions about Russia Pakistan excercise were taken.. I dont know why author trying link these two as if we are in panic mode.
     
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    They add all that to spice up their articles.
     
  6. PARIKRAMA

    PARIKRAMA Captain IDF NewBie

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    IF we are getting 636 then we might see Pipavav build lot more under MII.. That might be used to replace present Kilo subs completely by making 10 of them in 1:1 replacement

    That will lead to scrapping of P75I or a far more heavier tonnage in P75I of Barracuda range which will have VLS tubes to handle SLCMs and operating as a pseudo deterrence aspect..

    Interesting would be the configuration with S400 systems.. or rather S450 MKI system

    Again Antey Almaz and ADAG group tie up means lot more stuff for Anil Ambani.. He might pull out 3 stuff in less than 1 months
    1. Rafales
    2. S400
    3. Kilo636
    This will make it really interesting..

    I expect civilian aircraft proposal as well with Sukhoi100 Superjet parts under MII scheme... Also a FTA agreement with Belarus and Russia +India.. Ofcourse N power plants in AP....

    Main agenda of course needs to be FGFA and Super upgrade.. Need them on priority especially then we can start 4 squad off the shelf purchase seriously.
     
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    I am more interested in knowing about those three frigates offered to India..Any update on that?
     
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    September source said this
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    Innoprom was this
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    Now ET said this
    Russian President Vladimir Putin to be offered 30 joint venture plans during his 4-day stay

    EW DELHI: In what could help ease the heartburn caused by the Russia-Pakistan military exercise, India is making a major Russia push by lining up as many as 30 collaboration proposals to be taken up at the Indo-Russian annual summit in Goa on Saturday. These projects will cover areas ranging from additional nuclear reactors and fifth generation fighter aircraft to satellite navigation and investment in the hydrocarbon sector.

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    Russian President Vladimir Putin will be in India from October 14 to 17, his longest stay here in recent times, to attend the 17th edition of the Indo-Russian summit and the 8th BRICS summit with a team that includes eight ministers.

    Putin and Prime Minister Narendra Modi will release a joint document on global peace and stability besides a separate paper listing three dozen activities planned in 2017 to mark the 70th year of the establishment of diplomatic relations between the two countries.

    The Goa meeting, said people familiar with Indo-Russian partnership, could lead to significant outcomes and big headlines.

    Notwithstanding Russian argument of having minimum engagement with Pakistan to fight terror in the Eurasian region, Modi will express concern when he meets Putin over the military exercise in Cherat as India seeks to build a narrative against Pak-sponsored terror.

    Delhi and Moscow will seek to expand their counter-terror partnership and sign cyber security pact in Goa, officials said. Both sides are also hoping to extend their collaboration in Afghanistan with Delhi seeking Moscow’s assistance to supply military equipment.

    Despite going ahead with the war games with Pakistan, Moscow has taken steps to back India’s position — it supported the surgical strikes on terrorists in Pakistan Occupied Kashmir, cancelled joint exercises in Azad Kashmir and earlier virtually blamed Pakistan for the Uri terror attack.

    Even as negotiations are still going on, the highlight of this edition of the Indo-Russian summit could be an agreement on the fifth and sixth reactors (1,000 MW each) for the Kudankulam Nuclear Power Project in Tamil Nadu. India is expected to announce a second site for Russian-built nuclear power plants comprising six reactors, likely in Andhra Pradesh, even as Russia plans to sell as many as 25 reactors to India. Some reports suggest that Modi and Putin could jointly dedicate the second unit at Kudankulam through videoconferencing from Goa.

    India views Russia as a hard power which could assist it in key strategic sectors. Besides nuclear energy, a number of defencerelated pacts are in the pipeline as Moscow hopes to continue as India’s preeminent defence supplier.


    Besides agreements for fifth-generation fighter jets and Kamov helicopters (to be produced in India), the two sides could agree to modify the jointly developed Brahmos supersonic missiles, besides building frigates for the Indian Navy and supply an air defence system. Russia will also be urged to continue supply of ammunition for the Indian Army.

    Read more at:
    http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...ofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

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    It needs to be seen how much list is pruned and modified (modi fied !!!)
     
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    Anees Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    After this much agreement and project ,why still Pak-Russia army exercise ???:eek::(
     
  10. randomradio

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    Because of ISIS.
     
  11. Tejpal

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    1,000+ T-90 tanks? That seems a huge number. Can anyone explain why? Are these to replace T-72s?

    What about the T-14? What about the Arjun?
     
  12. randomradio

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    We need 3500 tanks. So yeah.

    Even Russia doesn't yet have the T-14 while Arjun is like LCA, aka, dead.
     
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    India needs 3,500 tanks? So it's about 1,300 T-90s now and 250 Arjuns and 2,500 T-72s. So presuming 2,500 T-90s and Arjuns with a 1000 T-72s being replaced by..?

    LCA is dead? How is it dead? 120 Tejas MK1As and roughly 40-50 LCAs, 170 is still a decent number and if the Mk1A impresses then I'd suspect further orders, no?

    Arjun Mk2 dead too? ****'s sake.
     
  14. randomradio

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    ...1000 T-90s, or a new tank.

    Dead in the sense, they thought IAF would buy 600+ LCAs, ended up with just 6 squadrons. Similarly, they thought IA would purchase 2000-3500 Arjuns, ended up with 250.
     
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    Thanks for the clarification. @randomradio soja, yaar. 4.30am IST.
     

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