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India eyes Russian S-400 Triumf + associated news

Discussion in 'Indian Military Doctrine' started by arulcharles, Oct 11, 2015.

  1. vstol jockey

    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    We will need dedicated ships for this class of weapons and they come with a problem of reload. IN operates around CBGs where the long distance AA cover is provided by fighters. Our ships need more of terminal defence against sea skimming missiles.
     
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    Gessler BANNED BANNED

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    After Barak-1 is retired, which point-defence SAM do you think could replace it? Barak-8 does have great close-range capabilities but I'd think
    it would be a waste of it's fleet-defence abilities where it can be better used.

    Maitri seems to have gone off the radar and a new foreign missile seems unlikely (atleast so far). A version of Astra maybe possible?
     
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    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    Barak-8 is designed to fill the place of Barak-1 also.
     
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    Paliwal Warrior Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    why cant we point out your bias ? - just because you are MOD ?

    see you need to treat everyone EQUALLY and be sharp with everyone Equally

    you cant say to pic - pl use better language
    and to other people who dislike rafale deal say - you will be handed infractions

    no need to say the same thing to both -

    you need to set aside yuor personal biases and prejudices when performing MOD functions / duties
     
  5. venureddy

    venureddy Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    thats what i am talking about bro. we could end up buiding a cruiser type ship to defend our carriers. we can
    will we ever have ships like kirov(conventionally powered ones or probably nuclear if its financially viable compared to conventional ones) in our navy to escort our carriers?? p-15s are great but ships like kirov are a whole new category. (just for info).
     
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    abhitej Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    Forget about carriers & destroyer & need to protect them with SAMs. Future belongs to submarines. China knows this and are building more of submarines than aircraft carriers or destroyers.
     
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    venureddy Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    at the same time carriers are also important. nothing can be compared to parking a nuke powered aircraft carrier just outside of your enemies territorial waters. that is some huge power projection. submarines are also important at the same time but we cant neglect one for another.
     
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    abhitej Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    carriers can be used only against weak nations. not against equals or superiors.
     
  9. randomradio

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    Carriers can be used against anybody. You need a lot of support and also need to know how to use it, that's the difference.

    The US can fight any nation today with their carriers, no matter how advanced they are. Awacs are under even greater threat compared to carriers.
     
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    venureddy Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    you are absolutely correct.
     
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    venureddy Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    you are wrong as random radio said carriers can be used against any nations if they have proper support and know how of how to use a carrier. carrier is a sovereign territory which can wreck havoc if used properly. but the biggest threat to the carriers is posed by the submarines itself and it can be countered by the use of submarines only . the only effective weapon against a submarine is a better submarine.
     
  12. Picdelamirand-oil

    Picdelamirand-oil Lt. Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    Generally a carrier is part of a force including:
    • ASW boat carrying ASW helicopter
    • Submarine
    • ASW plane on US carrier (on French also in the past with the "Alizée")
    MPA like your P8-I is also a serious threat to submarine.
     
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    venureddy Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    I accept that MPA's is a huge threat to subs but MPA's cant operate with INDIAN carriers in future when they are in SCS or any other place which is quite far from Indian home land. and MPA's cant operate without the support of fighters in enemy territorial waters. so the most effective weapon against a submarine is a better submarine.
     
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    it also consists support ships like fleet tankers and replenishment ships.
     
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    Our MPAs can operate in the SCS. We have a base in Nicobar and MPAs are planned to be stationed there.
     

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