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India is About to Acquire Armed Drones from Israel

Discussion in 'Indian Air Force' started by Lion of Rajputana, Apr 4, 2017.

  1. Lion of Rajputana

    Lion of Rajputana Captain FULL MEMBER

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  2. Ankit Kumar 001

    Ankit Kumar 001 Major Technical Analyst

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    @PARIKRAMA @Abingdonboy
    UAVs from USA are still a long shot.
    A good news in between can be "Searcher MK3".
    The coast guard is pushing for a AoN to be granted for a Maritime Surveillance UAV. Something which would complement the range of Do228s.

    There is a requirement within navy too. For a MALE version to fill the gap between Long Range P8I and Medium range upcoming ASW aircrafts [likely C295 Based] and a short legged to complement the Do228 operations. Though navy already has few flying units of Israeli UAVs , they are too small in numbers now.

    The case with Coast Guards is presently for ~20 UAVs based in 3 locations initially.

    If the Navy and Coast Guard come aboard over this project and combine their needs, then a MII project for Searcher MK3 might happen.

    If not then a desperate deal between IAI and Coast Guard is on the cards.

    PS: The re emergence of Searcher MK3 for short ranged MSR roles is because the US offer having too many rules and limitations about how we can use the products and the very high costs. The Israeli are offering Searcher MK3 at a very reasonable cost along with two newly developed more advanced sensor payloads. One is what they call as "Multi Role Maritime Surveillance Radar" and another which combines a Laser Designator, a Day and Night Camera and a Infrared Sensor all in one payload. Further aa option for Synthetic Aperture Radar is always there.

    With the US route too costly and risky, and no signs for any hope from domestic programs , Israel remains our only option.
     
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    Sancho Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    What about Rustom? Also with Do228 build in India and already fitted with the needed equipment, wouldn't it be possible to make an unmanned version out of it, if RUAG agrees to a joint development?
     
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    Ankit Kumar 001 Major Technical Analyst

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    Rustom , you see you know better what will happen even 5 years down the line.

    On Do228 converted to UAV, possible. But won't be of much practical use. Searcher is around 1/10th in weight compared to Do228. Untill we are contemplating for Do228 to be a UCAV, it doesn't make sense.
     
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    Sancho Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    Why no use? The Do 228 is already in use for maritime surveillance and if you reduce the manned factor you can take out a lot of parts in the cabin and replace it with additional fuel tanks or payloads.
    The aerodynamics and the surveillance systems are proven and mostly indigenous, so all you need is the remote controls.

    Italy has a similar development:

    http://www.p1hh.piaggioaerospace.it/
     
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    Ankit Kumar 001 Major Technical Analyst

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    I should have added , that such a project left to either ADA or HAL or DRDO has no future. These idiots at HAL have successfully with immense Hard work and dedication have managed to drag down the production of Su30MKI from 15 aircrafts in 2015 to 12 this year, at a time when more numbers are needed.

    They have single handedly managed to drag down and reduce the LCA potential to 1/4th, (that too questionable).

    India and fixed wing aircraft development in the same sentence are laughable !

    Of Course it would be great but first it needs to be.
     
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