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India is not buying M777 howitzer: Parrikar

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  1. layman

    layman Aurignacian STAR MEMBER

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    India is not buying M777 howitzer: Parrikar
    Published February 25, 2015
    SOURCE: IDRW NEWS NETWORK (INN)

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    Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar in a written reply to Salim Ansariin Rajya Sabha today informed that procurement of artillery guns through Foreign Military Sales (FMS) route from US Government has not progressed due to cost issues and the vendor’s (M/s BAE System) proposal not being fully compliant with the offset requirements.

    All capital procurements are carried out as per the Defence Procurement Procedure (DPP) which contains stringent provisions aimed at ensuring the highest degree of probity, public accountability and transparency.

    Last month BAE Systems has offered to transfer its entire M777 155mm/39-calibre lightweight howitzer (LWH) assembly line from the United States to India in support of the Indian Army’s longstanding requirement for 145 guns.
     
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  2. Anish

    Anish Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Does this mean mountain strike corps will also be scrapped?
     
  3. vstol jockey

    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    Made in India Kalyani gun will be bought instead.
     
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  4. Manmohan Yadav

    Manmohan Yadav Brigadier STAR MEMBER

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    That would be good
    Is it capable of MRSI
     
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    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    MRSI is a normal feature of any howitzer provided it has the ability of rapid fire for short duration. Normally this kind of guns have two types of firing rate, Sustained-which about 3 rounds per minute and rapid fire-which is about 6-8 rounds per minute but it gets limited to few minutes only as it overheats the barrel.
    For MRSI, we start with highest elevation and keep reducing elevation as the rounds are fired. This results in rounds taking different arc and so different time to arrive at the target. The firing is done in such a manner that all rounds arrive at the target at the same time. The max range for MRSI firing is generally about 65% of the max range of a gun.
     
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    Manmohan Yadav Brigadier STAR MEMBER

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    I hope Kalyani gun is capable of it
     
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    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    It will have it.
     
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    Paliwal Warrior Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    the mountain corps was not raised because we were considering buying those guns

    the guns were under considertaion because there is going to be a mountain corps
     
  9. sam2012

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    Good move which paves way for kalyani light weight 155mm 39 calibre gun
     
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    Come on mate why you are wasteing your time, there might be answer like why not ink rafale deal instead of M777 lol
     
  11. Averageamerican

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    Some times I wonder if India can ever made a decision.

    A better understanding of Indian decision making
    Written by Mark Heus September 2012. Posted in Decision-making, Int. Skills
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    From a Western perspective, decision making in India may be mainly experienced as time consuming, but if one knows about the cultural background of India and the importance of hierarchy a greater understanding will be achieved.
    First of all, a basic knowledge of the Indian history is needed to understand how India has become as it is nowadays. When India became independent in 1947, it meant the end of the British Raj (reign in Hindi) and also the abolishment of the caste system. The main religion, with 80 per cent of the population following it, is Hinduism.
    Another ‘need to know’ about the Indians is that they not only greatly value family in their private life, also their work colleagues are like an extended form of family to them. As a result of the aggregation between private family and work family, paternalistic behaviour tends to be used in both ‘families’. This means that the boss instead of the father incorporates this role at work. The paternalistic behaviour in the work environment is just one of the many examples of the presence of hierarchy in India.
    Hierarchy is also present in the main religion of the Indian, Hinduism. In the Hinduism one’s soul reincarnates after dying. The sum of the things you did right and wrong in your life will either have negative or positive effects on your next life. In short, the Hindu believes that hierarchy is not only limited to this present life, but also exists in their upcoming ones.
    Another example of the presence of hierarchy in India is the caste system, which is maybe one of the best examples of the strongly rooted hierarchy in the Indian society. Despite the fact that the Indian society made a lot of progress over the years, the influences of the caste system are still present in today’s society, e.g. in marital arrangements or simply in discrimination based on the caste. However, a remark must be made that influences of the caste system are more likely to apply to people from rural areas than people from urban areas.
    To summarize, the previous examples show how hierarchy forms a stable environment for the Indian people. And though the caste system is subject to ethical objections, it created a stable society to certain extent.
    When we translate the ‘maintaining of hierarchy’ to a way of maintaining stability, the first step to a better understanding of decision making in India is made. The second step is to take a closer look at how the maintaining of stability influences the decision making process in India in a business context.
    For instance, the Indians tend to be risk averse and they place great importance on consensus and preserving harmony during business meetings. During a business meeting all of the contributions of the attendants need to be considered, which delays the decision making process significantly. But since high value is put on stability, all input needs to be considered.
    Since stability is of great importance in India, employees often refer decision making to a higher authority. The employees know the limits to their roles very well and are not entitled nor empowered to make decisions on their own. Although this may seem rather time consuming from a Dutch view, it is in accordance with the paternalistic leadership style which is very common in India.
    Even on an individual level the maintaining of stability can be found. The Indians put great value on relationships and they believe that one must know with whom he or she does business with, on a personal level. It is therefore necessary to spend a considerable amount of time to build a sincere relationship and share mutual interests with your Indian business relationships. Gaining trust from your Indian business relationships results in you maintaining stability, which will eventually help you to smoothen the decision making process.
    In short, hierarchy and stability are inseparably linked with each other within the Indian culture and have a great influence on the decision making process. Although, at first hand it may seem rather time consuming, when one is able to adjust to these circumstances not only a better understanding can be achieved, but also a more successful way of doing business with the Indians.
     
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    Essay writeing compitation is in your school not in IDF:blah::blah:
     
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    In Business one way is to delay the decision long enough for the problem to go away. Works some times, but also bites you in the ass sometimes.
     
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    Guilty conscience eh? Your clients did not clear any funds for mountain corps and now everything from salaries to bulletproof jackets being clearing and force multipliers taking a back seat.
     
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    don't whine.
     
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