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    Pakistan targets civilian areas in Jammu, 3 children among 4 hurt in firing along LoC

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    Pakistan Army Troops on Thursday pounded civilian areas along LoC by violating ceasefire for the ninth time in four days resulting in injuries to four people, prompting retaliation from Indian troops.

    Pakistan troops resorted to unprovoked firing on forward Indian posts including civilian areas along LoC in Najwal Pargwal belt of Jammu district around 12.30 hours, police said.

    In the firing on civilian areas, four persons including three children were injured in Najwal border hamlet, they said.

    They have been identified as Nisha Devi (45), Rama Kumari (12), Usha Devi (14) and Surjeet Kumar (10) - all children of Sham Lal. They have been shifted to GMC Hospital for treatment, they said.

    Congress MP Madan Lal Shama, who along with Divisional Commissioner Jammu, Shant Manu and senior police officers, visited GMC hospital to inquire about the injured, said, "enough is enough - India should give a befitting reply to Pakistan ."

    BJP activists led by its Legislature Party leader Ashok Khajuria held protest demonstration and burnt Pakistan flag in protest against Pakistan firing in civilian areas of Jammu.

    "Give Pakistan a befitting reply. They are attacking us every time," Khajuria said.

    This is the ninth ceasefire violation by Pakistani troops in the past four days.

    Earlier in the day today, Pakistan violated ceasefire.

    "There was suspected movement of some persons along the International Border close to Kharkola border out post in R S Pura border belt of Jammu district at 0930 hours today," a BSF officer said.

    BSF troops guarding the borderline took positions and challenged them near Kharkola BoP, the officer said, adding during this period, Pakistan Rangers resorted to unprovoked firing on the forward area.

    Troops also retaliated resulting in exchanges, which are still going on when last reports came in.

    Pakistani troops have been repeatedly violating the ceasefire.

    On October 16, Pakistani troops had violated the ceasefire thrice in Kamalkote forward area of Uri belt, Krishnagati and Bhimbhergali sub-sectors of Poonch district and Mangu Chak and Khatav Border Out posts along International Border in Samba district.

    Lance Naik M F Khan of 15 Bihar regiment was killed on October 15 when Pakistani troops opened fire at Indian forward posts in Hamirpur-Balakote sub-sector in Poonch district.

    The same day, Pakistani Army had shelled mortars and fired from small arms in forward areas along LoC in Hamirpur and Bhimbher Gali sub-sectors of Poonch district.

    On October 14, BSF Constable M Basu was injured when Pakistani troops resorted to firing on Katav Border Out Post along the International Border in Samba district.

    In Islamabad, a military source claimed that a Pakistan Rangers' jawan was killed in firing by BSF troops along the LoC. The incident took place in Chaprar sector. "Firing was carried out by BSF post Kharkola," the source claimed.

    Pakistan targets civilian areas in Jammu, 3 children among 4 hurt in firing along LoC - Indian Express
     
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    Pakistan troops today opened heavy fire on at least five Indian forward posts and villages in RS Pura and Pargwal sectors along the 191.5-km-long international border, injuring at least five villagers, including a woman and three children.

    The injured sustained splinter injuries caused by 82 mm mortars. Two Pak Rangers were killed in RS Pura sector in retaliatory fire by the BSF.

    “Around 9 am, Pak Rangers opened unprovoked fire using 82 mm mortars and rocket-propelled grenades on Allah Mai De Kothe (AMK) and Kharkola posts of the BSF in RS Pura sector. Initially, they used small arms, but soon switched over to mortars and RPGs,” said a senior BSF officer.

    “We retaliated with equal-calibre weapons in which two Rangers were eliminated,” he added. The heavy exchange of fire continued till 11 am, while intermittent firing went up to 1.30 pm, he said.

    The Rangers opened heavy fire, using 82 mm mortars, on at least three BSF posts —Maljoda, Matkula and Najwal — in Pargwal sector of Chicken Neck area in Akhnoor sub-division around 1 pm.

    In Najwal village, Rangers used 82 mm mortars to target villagers working in their fields. “Five villagers, including a woman and three children, sustained splinter injuries caused by mortar explosions. They were taken to the Government Medical College and Hospital (GMCH) in Jammu,” he said.

    Their condition was stated to be out of danger, he added.

    In Pargwal sector, the exchange of fire went on till 4.30 pm. “We strongly retaliated to their unprovoked fire in this sector as well,” the officer added.

    Housing Minister Raman Bhalla, Jammu Divisional Commissioner Shantmanu and Jammu Deputy Commissioner AK Sahu visited the injured at the GMCH, Jammu, and handed over Rs 10,000 each to them for medical expenditure.

    The Tribune, Chandigarh, India - Main News
     
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    J&K: 10th ceasefire violation by Pakistan in 7 days, 2 jawans injured

    Srinagar: Pakistani troops continued to violate ceasefire agreement signed with India, firing at Indian posts at Noccobal Area in the RS Pura sector in Jammu.

    This is the 10th ceasefire violation by the neighbour in seven days. Two Indian jawans have also been injured in the firing.

    According to reports,there has been continuous firing from last night by the Pakistani forces along the LoC at RS Pura, Akhnoor and Hiranagar sectors.

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    Two BSF jawans were on Friday injured as Pakistani troops opened fire at ten border out posts and civilian areas along the International Border in Jammu and Samba districts.

    Violating the ceasefire, the Pakistani rangers fired on border out posts and forward civilian areas along International Border in R S Pura, Pargwal, Samba, Jugnu Chak areas of Jammu and Samba districts, police said.

    They resorted to firing along IB in Kharkota, Kharkal, AMK, Mangral of R S Pura sub sector, Regal and Rajpora in Samba sector and Nikowal BoPs, they said.

    In Nikowal BoP, two BSF constables Gangan Thakur and Hasda were injured and hospitalised, they said.

    BSF troops guarding the borderline took positions and retaliated strongly resulting in exchanges, which are still going on in some areas in R S Pura and Pargwal sub sectors.

    Heavy exchange of fire was still on in Jugnu Chak of RS Pura sub sector and Nikowal forward area of Pargwal sub-sector in Jammu district, police officials said.

    Pakistani troops were using automatic weapons and 82 mm mortar shells.

    In the backdrop of the increased ceasefire violations by Pakistan, Union Home Minister Sushilkumar Shinde will visit forward areas along the IB on October 22 to review the security situation.

    While the firing was on in Pargwal area, Jammu and Kashmir Deputy Chief Minister Tara Chand was addressing a rally nearby, asking authorities to gear up for any eventuality and drawing up a contingency plan to deal with the border firing.

    On October 16, Pakistani troops had violated the ceasefire by firing at Kamalkote forward area of Uri belt, Krishnagati and Bhimbhergali sub-sectors of Poonch district and Mangu Chak and Khatav border out posts along IB in Samba.

    Pakistani troops had also violated the ceasefire twice on October 15 by firing on Hamirpur-BhimbherGali sub-sector along LoC and Balakote forward areas along LoC in Poonch district, killing an Army jawan.

    On October 14, Pakistani troops had violated the ceasefire twice and resorted to firing along Poonch LoC and also Katav BoP along IB in Samba district, leaving a BSF jawan injured.

    Over 130 ceasefire violations have been reported in 2013, the highest in the past eight years.

    Pakistan targets 10 Indian posts, 2 BSF jawans injured
     
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    Pakistani troops target BSF posts at 25 locations along the International Border

    Jammu: In the biggest ceasefire violation along the International Border in a decade, Pakistani soldiers opened fire at Border Security Force (BSF) posts at 25 different locations in Jammu and Samba districts last night.

    Two BSF personnel were injured and one infiltrator was killed in the firing as the Indian Army foiled multiple infiltrations bids through the night.

    Heavy exchange of fire was reported from Kathua, Samba, Hira Nagar, RS Pura and Pargawal sectors.

    There have been over 150 incidents of ceasefire violations by Pakistan in the last two months. Jammu and Kashmir Chief Minister Omar Abdullah has said New Delhi should take up the issue strongly with Pakistan, adding that it would be "extremely difficult to maintain talks on ceasefire if the situation worsened."

    Intelligence sources say there are more than 40 training camps across the Line of Control and 700 militants are ready to infiltrate. More ceasefire violations are likely just before winter sets in and snow blocks the passes, they add.

    Mr Abdullah yesterday also questioned why the meeting between Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and his Pakistani counterpart Nawaz Sharif last month has failed to stop the spurt in such incidents.

    "It was only a few days ago that our Prime Minister met Pakistani Prime Minister in New York. They spoke about the ceasefire violation and it was decided that the DGMOs (Director General Military Operations) of both these countries will talk to each other and find a solution to this problem. Instead of getting solved, the matter is getting worse and the manner in which civilian areas were shelled yesterday and some of our children were injured, it doesn't seem that their intentions are right," the 43-year-old Chief Minister said.

    Weeks after that meeting, there have been no moves towards a meeting of the top military officers.

    In the backdrop of the increased ceasefire violations, Union Home Minister Sushil Kumar Shinde will visit forward areas along the International Border on October 22 to review the security situation.

    Pakistani troops target BSF posts at 25 locations along the International Border | NDTV.com

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    In biggest ceasefire violation in 10 years, Pak troops open fire at 25 locations on border

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    Jammu: In the biggest ceasefire violation along the International Border in a decade, Pakistani soldiers opened fire at Border Security Force or BSF posts at 25 different locations in Jammu and Samba districts yesterday.

    The firing, that began around 7:30 pm yesterday and continued through the night, has stopped for now. The BSF retaliated with mortars.

    Two BSF personnel were injured and one infiltrator was killed in the firing as the Indian Army foiled multiple infiltrations bids through the night.

    Heavy exchange of fire was reported from Kathua, Samba, Hira Nagar, RS Pura and Pargawal sectors.

    There have been over 150 incidents of ceasefire violations by Pakistan in the last two months. Jammu and Kashmir Chief Minister Omar Abdullah has said New Delhi should take up the issue strongly with Pakistan, adding that it would be "extremely difficult to maintain talks on ceasefire if the situation worsened."

    Intelligence sources say there are more than 40 training camps across the Line of Control and 700 militants are ready to infiltrate. More ceasefire violations are likely just before winter sets in and snow blocks the passes, they add.

    Mr Abdullah yesterday also questioned why the meeting between Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and his Pakistani counterpart Nawaz Sharif last month has failed to stop the spurt in such incidents.

    "It was only a few days ago that our Prime Minister met Pakistani Prime Minister in New York. They spoke about the ceasefire violation and it was decided that the DGMOs (Director General Military Operations) of both these countries will talk to each other and find a solution to this problem. Instead of getting solved, the matter is getting worse and the manner in which civilian areas were shelled yesterday and some of our children were injured, it doesn't seem that their intentions are right," the 43-year-old Chief Minister said.

    Weeks after that meeting, there have been no moves towards a meeting of the top military officers.

    In the backdrop of the increased ceasefire violations, Union Home Minister Sushil Kumar Shinde will visit forward areas along the International Border on October 22 to review the security situation.

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    ^^ not a big problem :dude: i would say
     
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    In biggest ceasefire violation in 10 years, Pak troops open fire at 25 locations

    In biggest ceasefire violation in 10 years, Pak troops open fire at 25 locations on international border

    Jammu: In the biggest ceasefire violation along the International Border in a decade, Pakistani soldiers opened fire at Border Security Force (BSF) posts at 25 different locations in the Samba district of Jammu and Kashmir last night.


    Here are the 10 big developments in this story:

    1. The firing, that began around 7:30 pm yesterday and continued through the night, has stopped for now. The BSF retaliated with mortars.
    2. Two BSF personnel were injured and one infiltrator was killed as the Indian Army foiled multiple infiltrations bids through the night.
    3. Heavy exchange of fire was reported from Kathua, Samba, Hira Nagar, RS Pura and Pargawal sectors.
    4. There have been over 150 incidents of ceasefire violations by Pakistan in the last two months.
    5. People living in the area near the border say they are considering migrating to safer places as their houses have been damaged in the firing.
    6. Foreign Minister Salman Khurshid said the government will handle the "high priority" matter "with great determination to protect sovereignty and safety of the country." "We have full confident in our forces. We owe them tremendous gratitude for showing restrain, dedication, determination and total preparedness to face any situation," he added.
    7. Jammu and Kashmir Chief Minister Omar Abdullah has said New Delhi should take up the issue strongly with Pakistan, adding that it would be "extremely difficult to maintain talks on ceasefire if the situation worsened."
    8. Intelligence sources say there are more than 40 training camps across the Line of Control and 700 militants are ready to infiltrate. More ceasefire violations are likely just before winter sets in and snow blocks the passes, they add.
    9. Mr Abdullah yesterday also questioned why the meeting between Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and his Pakistani counterpart Nawaz Sharif last month has failed to stop the spurt in such incidents.
    10. In the backdrop of the increased ceasefire violations, Union Home Minister Sushil Kumar Shinde will visit forward areas along the International Border on October 22 to review the security situation.

    In biggest ceasefire violation in 10 years, Pak troops open fire at 25 locations on international border | NDTV.com
     
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    Re: In biggest ceasefire violation in 10 years, Pak troops open fire at 25 locations

    good chance for cong i they got balls, just go for a WAR and win in 2014
     
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    Re: In biggest ceasefire violation in 10 years, Pak troops open fire at 25 locations

    Worst hit are the people living in the border area. First, they should be moved to a safer place.

    And then, go....:artillery:
     
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    Explore other options if Pakistan continues to violate ceasefire: Omar Abdullah

    Jammu and Kashmir Chief Minister Omar Abdullah on Monday asked the Centre to explore other options if Pakistan troops continue to violate ceasefire along the Line of Control (LoC).

    Questioning Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif's silence on the issue, Omar asked whether these ceasefire violations are taking place at the behest of Pak PM or because he does not have any control over the prevailing situation.

    Omar further said that if the ceasefire is violated again, then a befitting reply needs to be given.

    "It cannot be a one-sided affair, we can't be at the receiving end without giving any response," Omar reportedly said.

    Reacting to Nawaz Sharif asking for US intervention on Kashmir issue, Omar reportedly said, "Pakistan PM is guilty of playing to his home audience."

    The sharp reaction from the Jammu and Kashmir Chief Minister comes in the wake continuous ceasefire violations by the Pakistan in the recent times.

    In a recent offensive, the Pakistan troops targeted the Indian posts and opened indiscriminate firing along the International Border in Jammu district late on Sunday which continued throughout the night.

    The heavy firing created panic among villagers who have been fleeing the areas caught between the shooting.

    A total of 136 ceasefire violations have been reported in 2013, the highest in the past 8 years, a Defence spokesman said.

    Home Minister Sushilkumar Shinde will be visiting the areas along the International Border on Tuesday to review the security situation.

    Explore other options if Pakistan continues to violate ceasefire: Omar Abdullah
     
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    [​IMG] Even J&K CM is asking the UPA govt not to sit idle and take some action...but those traitors are still trying to figure out what to do, completely ignoring the LOC situation and pushing for peace through useless talks!!
     
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    Even as Home Minister Sushilkumar Shinde is scheduled to visit Samba sector to chair the Unified Command meeting and review the counter-infiltration strategy in Jammu on Tuesday, Pakistan-based Al Badr mujahideen group has been identified as the principal terrorist group, which clashed with the Indian Army at Shalla Batu village in Keran sector last month. It is headed by Bhakt Zameen from Dir in Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa (KP) province of Pakistan.

    Top government sources said that Shinde may not go to the international border in Jammu due to stepped up Pakistani firing from across the border, he will visit Hiranagar Police station, which was targeted by three Pakistani suicide attackers on September 26 and question senior officials on the delay in response to the terrorists that day. He will also review the counter-infiltration grid set up by the Army, Rashtriya Rifles, CRPF and JK Police with Pakistani-based terrorist groups making efforts to push in infiltrators before the onset of winter.

    Shinde and Home Ministry is seriously concerned about the stepped up infiltration from Pakistan as well as the revival of Al Badr group to push in KP Pashtuns in Kashmir. Electronic surveillance and intelligence inputs from Dudniyal, across the Keran sector, suggests that it was a group of 30-40 Al Badr terrorists with some from Jaish-e-Mohammed who engaged the Army in Shalla Batu village.

    Communication intercepts reveal that a large number of terrorists were communicating in Pashto, commonly spoken in KP and across the Durand Line.

    While Al Badr first surfaced in support of Jamait-e-Islami in 1971 East Pakistan war, the group has shown signs of revival and may replace Hizbul Mujahideen, whose indigenous cadre numbers are depleting fast. Kashmir watchers say Al Badr deliberately engaged the Indian army to highlight that Kashmir was still a burning issue. “This strategy has now become clear with Nawaz Sharif asking Barak Obama for intervention in Kashmir. Instead of relying on Kashmiris, Pakistan now wants to use Al Badr KP Pashtuns to push insurgency in the Valley,” said a senior official.

    Pak-based Al Badr behind Keran clash - Hindustan Times
     
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    Jammu and Kashmir Chief Minister Omar Abdullah said Monday that if Pakistan continues to violate the ceasefire agreement, India would have no option but to respond with force.

    Addressing a state police function here, he said, "In case Pakistan doesn't respect the ceasefire agreement and continues to violate it, then New Delhi should look for other options... If they (Pakistani troops) violate ceasefire and continue attacks on us, we won't tolerate it."

    Abdullah said Pakistani forces have been continuously targeting villages in Samba, R S Pura and Akhnoor. "It has made the local people leave their homes, abandon agricultural activities and flee to safer places," he said.

    "Obviously, this cannot be a one-sided affair. It cannot be a situation where we are at the receiving end and no

    response is given," he said.

    Stating that he would ask the Centre to take up the issue with Pakistan, the Chief Minister said, "Tell them that the answer to shelling cannot be given by words. We do not want to retaliate with the bullet for the larger interests of the civilians living near the LoC and IB, but that does not mean that the answer to the bullet is not the bullet."

    He added that the "forces behind creating tension on the border... will not be allowed to succeed".

    Stating that India and Pakistan had worked out a mechanism "whereby the DGMOs of the two countries would meet and find ways to deescalate tension on the LoC and IB", Abdullah said, "I believe that is an option that needs to be exercised, failing which the Government of India will have to look at responding to the ceasefire violation."

    On Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif's statement seeking US intervention in resolving the Kashmir issue, the Chief Minister said, "He is guilty of playing to his home audience as he knows that India won't accept any sort of foreign intervention."

    This is the second time in the last three days that Abdullah has expressed concern over the ceasefire violations on the Line of Control and International Border.

    Omar: Won’t tolerate ceasefire violations must look for options - Indian Express
     
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    Pakistan slams Salman Khurshid's remarks on Kashmir: full statement

    Following is the full statement issued by Pakistan's foreign office:

    Expressing disappointment at the comments by the Indian External Affairs Minister on the status of Jammu & Kashmir, appearing in a section of the Indian media, the Spokesperson stated that the Kashmir dispute is the core issue that remains unresolved between the two countries.

    It is unfortunate that Indian leadership continues to refer to the state of Jammu and Kashmir as an integral part of India, when the reality is clearly otherwise.

    As a member of the United Nations, India should not overlook or undermine the numerous UN Security Council resolutions on this issue. While bilateral agreements may exist, the sanctity of the UN resolutions cannot be understated.

    The Kashmir dispute remains a fundamental component of the bilateral dialogue process and resolution of this dispute is vital for maintaining peace and security in the region. India's continued intransigence over this issue is counterproductive and is unhelpful in the efforts to resolve this dispute.

    Pakistan remains committed to a purposeful, constructive and result-oriented dialogue with India and believes that serious efforts need to be made in maintaining a positive atmosphere and avoid negative propaganda.

    http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/pakistan-slams-salman-khurshid-s-remarks-on-kashmir-full-statement-435415
     

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