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  1. layman

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    Pak violates ceasefire, targets Indian posts on LoC

    JAMMU: Pakistani troops on Friday resorted to mortar shelling and firing on the LoC in Jammu district, the second ceasefire violation in two days ahead of a crucial meeting of the directors general of military operations of the two sides aimed at easing tensions along the ceasefire line.

    There was a firing of mortars shells and firing small arms and automatic weapons from across the border on forward Indian posts in Jourian sub-sector of Akhnoor tehsil of Jammu around 1419 hours, defence spokesman S N Acharya said.

    The firing and shelling was targeted towards Gigriyal forward belt.

    Army troops guarding the border belt gave a calibrated response by resorting to retaliatory firing, he said, adding that firing exchanges continued for for ten minutes.

    There was no loss of life or injury to any one in the firing on this side of the border, Acharya said.

    It was second incident of ceasefire violation in two days along India-Pak border in Jammu and Kashmir.

    BSF officer sub-inspector Jitender Singh suffered injuries in Pakistani firing along international border in Manyari forward area in Kathua district around 1.05pm on Thursday.

    There was no incident of ceasefire violations since the flag meeting between Pak Rangers and BSF authorities on October 29 after intensified firing and heavy shelling for over a month in which a BSF jawan was killed and 30 others, including 17 civilians, were injured.

    The firing and shelling incidents have taken place ahead of the December 24 meeting of the DGMOs of the two nations to discuss ways to prevent ceasefire violations along the LoC in Jammu and Kashmir.

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    Pak violates ceasefire, targets Indian posts on LoC

    Pakistani troops on Friday resorted to mortar shelling and firing on the LoC in Jammu district, the second ceasefire violation in two days ahead of a crucial meeting of the Directors General of Military Operations of the two sides aimed at easing tensions along the ceasefire line.

    There was a firing of mortars shells and firing small arms and automatic weapons from across the border on forward Indian Posts in Jourian sub-sector of Akhnoor tehsil of Jammu around 1419 hours, Defence Spokesman S N Acharya said.

    The firing and shelling was targeted towards Gigriyal forward belt.

    Army troops guarding the border belt gave a calibrated response by resorting to retaliatory firing, he said, adding that firing exchanges continued for for ten minutes.

    There was no loss of life or injury to any one in the firing on this side of the border, Acharya said.

    It was second incident of ceasefire violation in two days along Indo-Pak border in Jammu and Kashmir.

    BSF officer Sub Inspector Jitender Singh suffered injuries in Pakistani firing along International Border in Manyari forward area in Kathua district around 1.05 PM yesterday.

    There was no incident of ceasefire violations since the flag meeting between Pak Rangers and BSF authorities on October 29 after intensified firing and heavy shelling for over a month in which a BSF jawan was killed and 30 others,including 17 civilians, were injured.

    he firing and shelling incidents have taken place ahead of the December 24 meeting of the DGMOs of the two nations to discuss ways to prevent ceasefire violations along the LoC in Jammu and Kashmir.

    Pakistan has committed ceasefire violations 195 times along the Line of Control so far this year, more than twice than in last year, Defence Minister A K Antony had told Lok Sabha on December 17.

    He had said that one armyman died and 15 were injured in Pakistani firing this year.

    The numbers of ceasefire violations by the Pakistani side

    in 2012, 2011, 2010 were 93, 51 and 44 respectively, he had said.

    Pak violates ceasefire, targets Indian posts on LoC - Indian Express
     
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    Will there be a radical improvement Indo-Pakistani relations in 2014?

    At the end of 2013, some warming has been noted in the Indo-Pakistani relations. The Chief Minister of Punjab province and the brother of Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, Shahbaz Sharif visited India. He met with Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and invited him to visit Pakistan. According to Pakistani media reports, the invitation was accepted . However, the big question is how long will both sides exercise this desire for rapprochement and whether there will be a new turn after the general elections in India in the spring of 2014.

    Comments from Boris Volkhonsky, expert with the Russian Institute of Strategic Studies.

    “On the one hand, it is easy to talk about Indo-Pakistani relations, because there are many events, but the main trends have remained unchanged for several decades . On the other hand, it is a very difficult task, because sometimes seemingly insignificant nuances suddenly become of paramount importance, and the situation unfolds dramatically.â€￾

    Today the situation looks like this. Top leadership of both countries seems to be aware that continuation of deadlock in bilateral relations is unprofitable for both sides. However, desire for rapprochement exhibited at the top comes amid ongoing conflicts "on the ground," primarily in the region of ​​the Line of Control that divides Kashmir on the Pakistani and Indian sides. And every encounter causes a wave of anger in the public opinion and the media, to which the higher authorities must respond and adjust their course against the neighbour. In this regard, the situation offers nothing new, says Boris Volholnsky

    “However, 2013 has brought into the India-Pakistan relations one very important fact related to the external power factor. At the end of the year, there was a sharp deterioration in US-Indian relations. Provocation against an Indian diplomat in New York by the American authorities served as the formal reason for the conflict, but I think the reason is much deeper. And, judging by the mood of the Indian society on the eve of the general elections in 2014, the anti-Americanism in India will only grow, and can engulf the highest government level in the case of victory of Narendra Modi.â€￾

    After the victory of Nawaz Sharif in May 2013 it seemed that both Pakistan and the U.S. expressed a desire for rapprochement after several years when their relations were at their lowest point in the history. However, by the end of the year, the past trends have prevailed. The U.S. has not stopped drone strikes on Pakistani territory. This triggered a new wave of anger and even a temporary blockade of the 'southern' supply route of NATO forces in Afghanistan. Apparently, in the coming year the U.S. will not abandon its policy of "congagementâ€￾ in Pakistan, and attempts to dictate from the point of power will continue to cause acute indignation in the Pakistani society .

    In this situation, neither India nor Pakistan can be sure about which side will the U.S. support if the situation develops to the stage of open conflict . Which means an easing of contradictions in the interest of both parties. However, the Kashmir issue still remains acute, and the prospects of BJP and Narendra Modi coming to power in India are perceived with suspicion throughout the Islamic world and especially in Pakistan.

    It is important to keep in mind a few circumstances - continues Boris Volkhonski . – First, the possible assumption of the prime minister’s post by Narendra Modi is hardly worth that much fear. The Indian foreign policy has always been that of continuity regardless of which party forms the government. Besides Modi is quite a responsible politician, who achieved major success as Chief Minister of Gujarat and his triumphant re-election to a fourth term in 2013 was due to the support of local Muslims also.

    Second . The whole world experience shows that the solution of even the most acute territorial disputes can never be achieved if all the attention is focused only on a single issue. Only wide integration over a wide range of spheres of joint activity creates the preconditions for a mutually acceptable solution of territorial disputes. Suffice it to recall the problem of Alsace in Europe, which directly or indirectly was the cause of two world wars, and today Strasbourg, the capital of Alsace, has become the capital of the European Union. In this regard, apparently, India and Pakistan should follow the path of cooperation in the framework of broader integration formats .The Shanghai Cooperation Organization, to which both countries are candidates for full membership, provides an excellent opportunity for this, says Boris Volkhonsky.

    And finally, it is very significant that Shahbaz Sharif is the man who took on himself the task of setting up a dialogue. And not only because he is the brother of Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif. What is more symbolic is that he is the Chief Minister of Pakistan's Punjab province. Recall that the historical territory of Punjab as well as Kashmir is divided between India and Pakistan, and during the partition of British India in 1947 became the scene of the bloodiest Hindu-Muslim clashes. However, today it is the Punjabi land on the Indo-Pak border that sets an example of fruitful cooperation. A daily ritual of lowering of national flags of India and Pakistan at the Wagah border at sunset, of course, is used to raise the patriotic spirit of the spectators, but never to foment mutual hostility.

    So the logic of events allows you to watch the India- Pakistan relations in 2014 with cautious optimism .

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    A militant belonging to Pakistan- based Lashker-e-Toiba (LeT) was killed in an encounter with security forces in Budgam district of Kashmir Valley on Thursday, police said.

    The militant, identified as Umar Bilal from Pakistan- occupied Kashmir, was killed in a gunfight in Hushroo village of Chadoora area of the central Kashmir district this morning, a police spokesman said.

    He said a joint team of police and security forces had on Wednesday laid a cordon around the village after receiving intelligence inputs about the presence of militants in the area.

    As the forces started the search operations, the militants hiding in a house in the village opened fire, following which the forces retaliated, the spokesman said.

    There was intermittent firing during the night and a fierce gunfight started in the morning resulting in the killing of the ultra.

    The house was damaged in the gunfight and body of the militant was recovered from under the debris, he said.

    An AK-47 assault rifle and some ammunition were recovered from the debris, the spokesman said.

    The search operation was launched following the arrest of a local LeT operative Latief Ahmad Rather on Tuesday.

    Based on the information provided by the arrested operative, the security forces cordoned off Ichkoot village near Chadoora but the militants had managed to escape.

    Jammu & Kashmir: LeT Militant killed in encounter - Indian Express
     
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    India, Pakistan agree to send back inadvertent border crossers

    LAHORE: India and Pakistan today agreed that people who inadvertently cross the frontier would be immediately returned to their respective countries.

    The decision was made during a five-day bi-annual meeting of officials of the Pakistan Rangers and India's Border Security Force here.

    According to a statement issued after the talks, the two sides decided to continue efforts to ensure peace and tranquillity on the international border.

    The two border guard forces agreed that people who inadvertently cross the frontier would be immediately returned to their respective countries.

    The two sides reached consensus on using communication channels more effectively to control violations on the frontier. They also agreed on "zero tolerance" for smuggling.

    Consensus was developed on issues like stopping illegal construction' removal of wild growth like scrubs and maintenance of boundary pillars.

    Defence constructions, border incidents and trans-border crimes like drug trafficking, infiltration and smuggling of arms and fake Indian currency, inadvertent border crossings and other matters of mutual interest were discussed for effective border management, authorities said.

    The Indian delegation, headed by BSF chief Subhash Joshi, included senior officers from Chandigarh, Jammu, Punjab, Rajasthan, Gujarat and the BSF headquarters in New Delhi.

    The decisions came days after the Directors General of Military Operations of the two countries met after 14 years and decided to re-energise mechanisms for maintaining the ceasefire on the Line of Control.

    India, Pakistan agree to send back inadvertent border crossers - The Times of India
     
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    2 Indian border guards killed after slipping from mountain near Kashmir LoC



    SRINAGAR, Indian-controlled Kashmir, Dec. 28 (Xinhua) -- Two Indian border guards of the Border Security Force were killed after they slipped from a mountain top near line-of-control (LoC) in Kashmir, a Srinagar based local daily newspaper Kashmir Reader on Saturday reported.

    The incident took place early Friday in Machil sector of frontier Kupwara district, about 165 km northwest of Srinagar city, the summer capital of Indian-controlled Kashmir.

    According to newspaper, Avtar Singh and Satish Kumar, of BSF's 68 battalion, were patrolling Arya Post in Machil sector of the frontier district when they slipped from snow covered mountain top into a deep gorge. "Singh was rescued by search party shortly in injured condition and rushed to hospital, where he succumbed to injuries," the newspaper quoting official sources as saying. " Searches are on in the area to trace the missing trooper Kumar who is believed to have died."

    The upper reaches of Indian-controlled Kashmir received heavy snowfall last week, following which the authorities issued warnings cautioning people in these areas not to venture in avalanche prone areas.


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    Indian army says infiltration bid foiled on Kashmir LoC



    SRINAGAR, Indian-controlled Kashmir, Jan. 18 (Xinhua) -- The Indian army on Saturday claimed it had foiled an infiltration bid on line-of-control (LoC) in Kashmir.

    The infiltration bid, according to Indian army spokesman Lt Col Manish Mehta, was thwarted in Krishna Ghati sector. The sector falls in frontier Poonch district, about 185 km southwest of Srinagar city, the summer capital of Indian-controlled Kashmir. "This morning our troopers observed some suspicious movement of three to four infiltrators on LoC in Krishna Ghati sector," Mehta said. "The alert troops challenged them and foiled their attempt to come deep into our territory after which there was a brief exchange of firing in the area."

    Mehta said the infiltrators dispersed in the forest area and search operation to trace them was underway.

    This is the second infiltration bid since Monday, Indian army officials said.

    The infiltration bid came one day after the armies of India and Pakistan held a flag level meeting in Poonch as part of their efforts to honor the cease-fire agreement.

    New Delhi accuses Islamabad of sending armed militants to Indian-controlled Kashmir. However, Islamabad says it only provides moral and political support to Kashmiris.

    The Director General of Military Operations (DGMOs) of India and Pakistan last month met at Wagah-Attari border to work out a mechanism to ensure peace along LoC in Kashmir and ease tensions.

    The DGMOs of the two countries met for the first time after Kargil war of 1999.Last year deadly skirmishes took place between Indian and Pakistani troops posted on LoC and international border (IB) in Kashmir. Both sides have suffered troop as well as civilian casualties during the standoff on 720 km long LoC and 198 km IB.

    LoC is a de facto border that divides Kashmir into India and Pakistan controlled parts.

    Meanwhile, Indian army Chief General Bikram Singh Monday called upon Indian-controlled Kashmir Governor N N Vohra in Jammu, the region's winter capital. "General Singh briefed the governor about security scenario, incidence of ceasefire violations along the IB and LoC and the army's preparedness to deal with any emerging situation," a government spokesman said.

    Kashmir, the Himalayan region divided between India and Pakistan, is claimed by both in full. Since their Independence from Britain, the two countries have fought three wars, two exclusively over Kashmir.


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    Pak violates ceasefire: unprovoked firing at LoC

    As India celebrated its 65th Republic Day on Sunday, Pakistani troops once again violated the ceasefire along the Line of Control (LoC) in Kashmir.

    Pakistani soldiers began unprovoked firing on Kaman post in Uri sector of north Kashmir. The firing lasted for around three hours but there were no casualties, the army said.

    The Indian troops did not retaliate.

    "At 6.15am today, Pakistani troops began firing unprovoked. They fired about three RPG rounds and small arms at the Kaman post on the Indian side," said Major General Anil Chauhan, General Officer Commanding, 19 Infantry Division.

    He said the firing was apparently aimed at disrupting peace along the LoC.

    "The firing was undertaken by those elements who are inimical to the interests and welfare of the people, cross-LoC trade and maintenance of peace along the LoC," he said.

    This is the first ceasefire violation in Kashmir since the DGMO-level talks between India and Pakistan last month. The issue has been raised with Pakistan through hotline.

    The 740-km LoC is essentially the military control line between India and Pakistani-controlled parts of Kashmir. It is not a legally recognised international boundary but a de facto border.

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    Re: Pak violates ceasefire: unprovoked firing at LoC

    Why ??????
     
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    Re: Pak violates ceasefire: unprovoked firing at LoC

    acche din me kutto ke muh nahi lagtey....:troll:
     
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    Pak targets Indian posts in J&K for 2nd time in 3 days
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    Pakistan troops fired at Indian posts in Poonch district of Jammu and Kashmir on Monday for the second time in three days.

    “Pakistani troops fired unprovoked with small arms, automatics and mortars on Indian posts along Line of Control in Bhimber Gali Sector of Mendhar in Poonch district at 5:15 am,” official spokesman in Jammu said.

    “Our own troops retaliated with similar caliber weapons,” he said adding, “No damage of property or casualty of own troops have been reported so far.”

    The spokesman said intermittent firing was still on till last reports came in.

    The earlier ceasefire violation by Pakistan in this area was reported on April 25. Pakistan also violated the truce in the same area on April 16 when an infiltration cum ceasefire bid was foiled by the Army.

    Director Generals of Military Operations (DGMO) of both India and Pakistan met on April 25 over the issue of ceasefire violation where the Pakistani DGMO had alleged it was actually Indian troops that had violated the ceasefire and sought a flag meeting between sector commanders to resolve the issue.
     
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