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India Pakistan Border Developments

Discussion in 'International Relations' started by Sinchan, Dec 9, 2012.

  1. kaku

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    Actually, the WAR created the civilization, destroy them but again created them, and this is hardened reality.

    The world is now seeing is just because of WAR, if you analyses the WAR, then it has very major part in shaping the world and nature of human being.

    Its not joke, but we still cant live without that.
     
  2. Jungibaaz

    Jungibaaz Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    True. War is human nature and it has changed the world.
     
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  3. kaku

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    Even if the war is not existed, then there will be no technologies that we see around ( there will be no Bronze age, no Iron age and most imp which causes the WW 1, the industrial age) , even a threat of war is also important for the technological advancements.
     
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  4. sangos

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    For a state that send terrorists to my country to kill and be killed and talks about full scale war at the drop of a hat. What else do they think of war but a child's play thing.
     
  5. Jungibaaz

    Jungibaaz Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Stop taking digs at me where I come from.

    You said war was fun, you're fighting a losing battle matey, quit while you still have something to show for.
     
  6. neil_diablos

    neil_diablos Lieutenant SENIOR MEMBER

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    Look kid in case you don't realize it, in war people die. A bullet or shrapnel does not ask your nationality before striking you. Therefore words like "fun" should not be used to describe war. Irrespective of nationality, a soldier is a soldier, fighting for his own country because thats his job. Death is an occupational hazard but it still doesn't change the fact that they are someone's father, son or husband.

    As far as Pakistan is concerned, their establishment is a nut job and always have been. Their army has ruined their country but at times have stepped up to defend it as well, which is why there are mixed feelings within the people. As far as civilian government is concerned, they have always been a bunch of corrupt, backstabbing and self centered pussies working to please the jagirdars and feudal lords. Absence of land reforms have been a curse upon them and the common Pakistani is reaping the rewards.

    Most Pakistanis, including the educated ones suffer from an excessive dose of propaganda from childhood. They grow up being fed on a steady diet of the following:

    1. Pakistan is invincible being created by God.
    2. India has always envied Pakistan which is why they have waged wars on Pakistan and have lost each time.
    3. '71 was an Indian conspiracy to divide Pakistan (which to a certain extent is true).
    4. We have ruled Hindus for 1000 years which is why they hate us and we will rule them again.
    5. Hindus are evil.

    Now when they grow up and learn the real truth, they either fail to acknowledge the facts or suffer from identity crisis.
     
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    Rock n Rolla Lt. Colonel STAR MEMBER

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    Please do explain.
     
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    Most important brainwashing factor used by the army is that - Pakistan is a fortress waiting permanently to be overwhelmed by the Hindu India and the army can not afford to slacken its hold over the nation.Pakistan is in a perpitual state of war = real or imaginary !
     
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    We did arm and train 'mukti-bahini' before full-scale war broke out. But the sheer onus of the partition happening still lies on the West-pakistani administration, and the fundamental flaw in 'two nation theory'. Hence the qualifier- 'to an extent'.
     
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    As I mentioned, it is true to a certain extent but not in its entirety and certainly not the way its has been put in Pakistani text books. In '71 West Pakistan was causing atrocities and embarked on "ethnic cleansing", pissed off that Sheikh Mujiber had won the elections in East Pakistan and demanded greater autonomy. While India was suffering from an overwhelming influx of refugees, Pakistan carried out religious genocide relentlessly. Read about the atrocities of one General Tikka Khan in particular if you can.

    India appealed to the international community, but failed to elicit any response. Thus India covertly started funding and aiding the Mukti-bahini. Anticipating an Indian Attack, Pakistan conducted pre-emptive air raids over Indian which India took gladly took as declaration of war. This provocation by Pakistan was like banging a nail in their own coffin as it gave India and excuse to retaliate in kind and the rest as they say, is history.
     
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    Very well explained.:tup:

    Yes, this is precisely what they are fed each day.
     
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    Yes I know that, but it's a natural reaction prompted by the heavy influx of refugees, we can't say that we were part of any conspiracy to divide Pakistan. Pakistan created a lot of issues in East Pakistan which affected India as well and ultimately led to India getting involved.
     
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    I'm OK with 'to an extent' but not 'Conspiracy'; it's what Pakistani's think, but it was a reaction due to our own security concerns, as we didn't have any plans to divide Pakistan in the first place.
     
  14. kaykay

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    Good. Until now Indian security forces have killed 22700 terrorists in Kashmir and with these 300, figure will be 23000. We are waiting, let them come.
     
  15. sangos

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    You are reading too much into the "fun" word used to take a dig at Pakistan's military adventurism with India. Btw am 115 years old - just a heads up on the kidding part:sarcastic:
     

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