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  1. Wolfpack

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    http://www.thehindu.com/news/nation...d&utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=RSS_Syndication

    Tiruchi school faces probe over ‘Deepavali punishment’

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    TIRUCHI, OCTOBER 23, 2017 07:49 IST
    UPDATED: OCTOBER 24, 2017 08:45 IST

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    • school at Keezhapudur here by a parent alleging that his son was punished by the school authorities for having burst crackers for Deepavali.

      The Palakkarai police station under whose jurisdiction the school falls has issued a CSR (Community Service Register) upon receiving the complaint from S. Sethuraman against the school headmaster and physical education teacher.

      Mr. Sethuraman alleged that his son and a few other Hindu students were punished for having burst crackers for Deepavali, and that the action has caused them mental agony.

      Police sources said an inquiry was conducted with the school headmaster and the physical education teacher on Saturday .

      Sources said the school authorities had reportedly asked some students who had burst crackers to bow their heads as an act of seeking pardon from nature during the prayer session a day after the festival. Some children who had not burst crackers were given appreciation letters.

      The school authorities had reportedly told the police that they had only acted on the instructions given by the Tamil Nadu Pollution Control Board in letter and spirit.

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      Another complaint has been preferred against the same school by a parent alleging that the physical education teacher had beaten up her daughter with a cane for having applied mardani (henna (mehandi). A CSR has also been issued based on the complaint with the police conducting inquiry into this as well
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    Wtf? So now Christian schools will punish Hindu students for bursting firecrackers in their own homes?What are we living in a "Goan Inquisition or Islamic rule" ? Why there is no outrage in National media and this news is hushed up?
     
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    When we were in school we got kicks and punches, caning, slaps and all sort of nasty punishments. There was no mental agony. The same teachers who hammered the hell out of us gave us praises and a high five or a handshake on the result day. Kids these days.
     
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    They are not being punished for indiscipline, but for their religious beliefs and for celebrating diwali for bursting firecrackers in their own homes, will the school punish kids for celebrating bakreid or cutting trees for christmas and ask them to bow their heads in shame and ask for a apology from Nature?
     
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    Huge difference between being punished for screwing up and being publicly shamed even though you are innocent.

    Christians should be punished for cutting and putting up Christmas trees.
     
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    Guynextdoor Lt. Colonel SENIOR MEMBER

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    it says crime against nature, not crime against Jesus Christ. Chrstisains are not allowed to believe nature is God, so this is not religiously motivated.
     
  6. vstol jockey

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    I think it is based on what you wrote. Christians do believe Nature is god but Hindus do believe in nature and the fact that the children were punished for bursting crackers which is usually done with support of senior family members, that school has directly insulted the Hindu community. It was not just a punishment to children but also sending across a message to their family elders.
     
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    Are you daft? Will Christian students be punished on Christmas eve for cutting trees and placing them in their homes as crime against nature? Who the hell is this Christian school to punish Hindu kids for bursting crackers in their own homes. This is not Goan Inquistion,where Hindus are banned.
    The article also says a girl was caned by a teacher and punished because she wore Mehendi,which is mostly worn by Hindu females during festivals . How is that a crime against Nature.
    The point here is shaming and punishing Hindu students for following their Hindu religion by a Christian Minority school, which get's all tax sops and benefits from the Taxes which Hindus(80% population of India) PAY.
     
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    The article is not clear where the children bursted crackers. The principal room or against any head of department.:artillery::artillery::artillery:
     
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    The article is very clear that students burst crackers at their homes as they were asked the question during morning assembly and those who raised their hands were punished. Now we have school which even trying to regulate what students do beyond school hours and beyond the boundary of school, in their own homes with their own parents and elders.
     
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    All I can say is "Jesus.... Christ".
     
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    Any action from the Hindu community should only be legal, that too against the guilty school officials. Try NHRC, or other constitutional way. Exhaust all legal and constitutional options first. This should not morph into a campaign against any particular community.
     
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    Punish the school. 100 power squats for the head to start off:troll:
     
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    In public, it proclaims to be a champion of diversity and equality. Kerala's Popular Front of India (PFI) has consistently denied accusations of religious conversions, hawala funding, murderous assaults and terror links.

    But India Today has lifted the veil off the non-profit organisation, securing stunning confessions of its top functionaries about its mass proselytizing, illegal financing and about its ultimate goal to turn India into a theocratic Islamic state.

    The PFI, already under NIA investigation, is accused of brainwashing Hindu women and marrying them off to Muslim men.

    "All these allegations are baseless," claimed Zainaba A.S., the head of the group's woman wing, on Monday, responding to accusations that she "mentored" non-Muslim women into conversions.

    She is suspected of playing a key role in what has come to be known as Kerala's own love-jihad case -- the marriage between Hadiya, previously known by her Hindu name as Akhila Asokan, with Shafin Jahan.

    In May, the state high court annulled their matrimony after the woman's father challenged it as an act of forcible conversion for terror recruitment.

    The couple's appeal is now being heard by the supreme court.

    "I contacted Hadiya only after she came to (the PFI's sister organisation) Sathya Sarani for admission. Actually, she embraced Islam two years before. In 2013, she embraced Islam," insisted Zainaba on Monday. "It's no love-jihad (but) an arranged marriage."

    But before Zainaba issued this denial relating to one high-profile case, she had already shared the PFI's dark secrets with India Today's undercover reporters.

    Herself a member of the All India Muslim Personal Law Board, she was caught on tape how the Popular Front of India and its sister organization Sathya Sarani in Kerala's Manjeri carried out massive conversions.

    "(In) That institute of ours... around 5,000 people have converted to Islam over the past 10 years now," Zainaba revealed. They, she admitted, included both Hindus and Christians.

    Conversions, an emotive issue in Kerala, are banned in Arunachal Pradesh, Himachal Pradesh, Gujarat, Madhya Pradesh and Odisha if carried out through force or allurement. Recently, Jharkhand's assembly also passed an anti-conversion bill recently.

    At their home in Malappuram, Zainaba and her husband, Ali, spoke candidly about their involvement in proselytising several non-Muslim women into Islam.

    They didn't speak specifically about the Hadiya case though.

    "We had a schoolteacher with us. She was an M.Sc. in mathematics and B.Ed," said Ali. "Now she's converted to Islam. She converted four years ago," added Zainaba.

    "Did you proselytize her?" the reporter probed.

    "Yes," confirmed the PFI's woman leader. "Four years ago."


    The converted woman was previously called Shubha, Zainaba disclosed. "She's now Fatima." "How many non-Muslims have you proselytized?" the reporter asked.

    "There are many," replied Zainaba.

    She also explained the entire modus for proselytising, emphasising conversion centres have to disguised as charitable or educational establishments in order to prevent any backlash.

    "We don't have to officially declare it to be a conversion centre. It's an educational institute," Zainaba admitted. "A lot of preparation goes into it. We need resources. We have to create a trust first."

    She disclosed such secret centres have to have at least 15 members to qualify for registration as a trust.

    "Later, we need to figure out a place for the campus. That campus should house all facilities, such as a mosque for namaz, accommodation, a well-furnished institute like this (Sathya Sarani)," Zainaba explained. "Then we have to get it registered by the government under the Societies Registration Act."

    Further, Zainaba revealed how the PFI outsourced name-change certificates after converting inmates.

    "There are two ways. Getting a certificate from some institutes that such and such person has embraced Islam. Then there's another system of having it notarized on a declared affidavit," she said.

    In its dossier, accessed by India Today, the NIA has also accused the PFI of terror links and hawala financing, charges the group has denied vehemently.

    But a founding member of the PFI, whom India Today reporters met in New Delhi under cover, admitted that the organization aimed at creating an Islamic state.

    Ahmed Shareef, the PFI's founder member and the managing editor of its mouthpiece Gulf Thejas, also confessed to illegal funding.

    "All over the world. That is the motive," Shareef acknowledged when asked whether the PFI and Sathya Sarani worked on a hidden motive to establish Islamic state in India as suspected. "All over the world. That is the motive."

    "Islamic state is the final goal?" the reported probed.

    "Final goal," Shareef replied. "All over the world. Why only India? After making India an Islamic state and then they will go to other states."

    He also revealed how he raised funds for the PFI in the Middle East five years ago and sent them back home through hawala.

    "At that time, (Rs) 10 lakh or something," Shareef said.

    "Ten lakh? And how you sent it?" asked the reporter.

    "Hawala," answered Shareef. He admitted both the PFI and Sathya Sarani received funding through mainstream as well as illegal hawala channels.

    REACTION TO INDIA TODAY'S OPERATION CONVERSION FACTORY

    Ravishankar Prasad says PFI should be banned and these leaders should be prosecuted.

    "Your investigation shows that there is a PFI, the Popular Front of India, which is having an organised racket employing people who are owning it up on your channel that they are creating a radical group by some kind of psychological brainwashing," said law minister and BJP leader Ravi Shankar Prasad.

    "These NGOs that profess that they stand for peace, profanity stand exposed today at your channel. That's a great job you have done. My greetings and congratulations to you," said Prasad.

    "I have to point out that unfortunately none of the reporting that has come out in the papers, one finds that they haven't caught the the gist of the argument which thankfully your channel seems to have through this entire exercise in a very very good manner caught," said BJP spokesperson Nalin Kohli.

    "These are glaring and extremely worrisome trends showing there is a well oiled machinery and psychological kidnappings as Mr Manindar Singh told the Court and as the investigation is revealing. This is not an ordinary case," said Kohli.

    "Upper caste Hindus are harassing lower Caste Hindus, that's why they are converting to Islam for equality, justice and peace nowadays. ISI members were found in Madhya Pradesh. BJP should be banned for that and the parent organization RSS should be banned. Also follow the Sardar Vallabh Bhai Patel's footsteps who banned RSS once," said the media coordinator Islamic Research Foundation Ilyas Sharafuddin.

    "If someone violates the law of the land he should be punished, Islam does not oppose that," said AIIA president Maulana Sajid Rashidi.

    Meanwhile, NIA is monitoring India Today expose Operation Conversion Factory. The agency wants India Today to provide complete recording of investigation.

    Sources say NIA will probe findings of India Today Investigation.

    http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/love-jihad-kerala-conversion-factory-islamic-state/1/1079334.html

    check the link for the sting videos. pretty startling.
     
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    The influence of fundamental Islam in the state Kerala has grown substantially over the last few years and is a grave cause of concern for national security. Today, Kerala Police confirmed that 6 more youths from Kannur, who allegedly worked with the radical group Popular Front of India (PFI), have joined ISIS.

    The development comes amid police trying to confirm news about the death of five Islamic State sympathisers from the district in Syria. Three youths – Mithilaj, Abdul Razzak and Rashid – with suspected terror links to the ISIS were arrested by the Valapattinam police earlier this month. Their interrogations revealed that the terror outfit may also be spreading its links into Karnataka’s Kodagu district. These revelations come in after Kerala Police had confirmed the death of another five men in Syria, all from Kannur.

    It is alleged that the youth worked with PFI, which is a radical group accused of carrying out ‘Love Jihad’ in the state of Kerala. Former Vice President Hamid Ansari came under a lot of fire for attending a program organised by the women’s wing of PFI.

    The increasing Islamic radicalisation of Kerala is posing a threat to national security. Funding from radical organisations in Gulf countries has never been addressed in Kerala, this is a cause of concern especially given the illicit trade between the Gulf and Kerala. This can also be attributed due to appeasement politics, which was the hallmark of the previous Congress led alliance in Kerala, which ruled under the banner of the United Democratic Front. However, reports from the MHA and Wikileaks suggests that funding from the Gulf is immense- an example here states that India received Rs. 1,700 Crore funds from Saudi Arabia in 2015.

    While the government has taken steps by cancelling the FCRA Licences of Muslim organisation with dubious transactions, however more seems to be done to address radicalisation. Proliferation of groups like Popular Front of India (PFI)- a radical Muslim organisation originating in Kerala pose a grave security threat to both Kerala and the rest of India due to their links with the terrorists outfits abroad. According to the report from National Investigative Agency (NIA), PFI have been receiving funds through clandestine means from the Gulf.

    The NIA has claimed that PFI has also been allegedly involved in influencing the youth, many of whom have backgrounds in medicine and engineering to join ISIS and wage war in Afghanistan and the middle east. ISIS in Afghanistan has released videos commemorating ‘martyrs’ from Kerala and urging many more from the state to join them in their fight. In a strategic operation based on information about ISIS recruiters operating in northern Kerala, the Kerala police launched Operation Pigeon and saved 350 people from joining ISIS.

    http://www.opindia.com/2017/11/kerala-police-claims-six-more-youths-from-kannur-have-joined-isis/
     

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