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India to Britain: We don't need the 'peanuts' you offer us in aid

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  1. Star Wars

    Star Wars Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    India to Britain: We don't need the 'peanuts' you offer us in aid

    India's Finance Minister referred to the financial aid given by Britain to his country as nothing more than 'peanuts', it is claimed.
    It is also claimed that Pranab Mukherjee and other Indian ministers tried to reject the money - around £280million a year - from the UK in 2011, but the British Government 'begged' them to take the money.
    The Sunday Telegraph claims that the Indian government were disposed to reject the money in April last year, because of the 'negative publicity of Indian poverty' highlighted by the aid.

    According to official transcripts, Mr Mukherjee said: 'We do not require the aid. It is a peanut in our total development exercises.'
    Figures show India's economy is booming - and may eclipse Britain's economy within the next decade.

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    Well that's gratitude! We give India £1bn in aid, THEY snub the UK and give France a £13bn jet contract
    The row over aid to a booming country was exacerbated by the news last week that French firm Dassault Rafale was selected as the preferred bidder to supply 126 military jets to the Indian air force.
    It was hoped the £13billion deal would be given to the UK - with Government officials claiming the £1billion of aid paid out to India over the last five years would help win the investment.
    The British bid, by BAE Systems, which builds the Eurofighter Typhoon jet, was consigned to second place.
    International Development Secretary Andrew Mitchell said in December that Britain’s controversial foreign aid programme was partly designed to win the bid.
    The aid package is 15 times larger than the £18million France sent to India in 2009.
    Asked to justify Indian aid last year, Mr Mitchell said: 'It's a very important relationship. The focus is also about seeking to sell Typhoon.'
    The decision was also a setback for David Cameron, who visited India in 2010 with six Cabinet ministers and around 60 businessmen to try to establish Britain as the ‘partner of choice’ for India.

    During Prime Minister's Questions in the House of Commons, Mr Cameron said he was 'disappointed' by the decision.
    He said: 'We don't expect any job losses stemming from this decision and it does not rule out the Typhoon for India.'
    He insisted BAE Systems was still in the hunt for the contract, despite losing the first round of bidding.
    Indian officials said Dassault emerged in front because the Rafale jet was ‘much cheaper unit-wise’ than the Eurofighter.
    It was reported that Dassault slashed its price demands to ensure the deal was done.
    One Indian defence ministry source said: ‘The Indian air force, which is well-equipped with French fighters, is favouring the French.’ The Rafale jets will replace India’s ageing fleet of Russian MiGs.
    According to financial advisers Merrill Lynch, India has 153,000 dollar-millionaires — a 20 per cent rise in a year, compared with Britain’s own paltry increase of less than 1 per cent.
    Such is the economic power of India that it now gives out more foreign aid than it receives, and has handed over £3.5billion to cement relations with impoverished Africa.
    Meanwhile, it invests huge sums in ambitious projects: £2billion will put the first Indian astronauts into space by 2016, and the annual defence budget tops £22billion, with a third aircraft carrier now under construction in an Indian shipyard.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2096628/India-Britain-We-dont-need-peanuts-offer-aid.html


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  2. DaRk KnIght

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    Their 1% billion aid usually goes to corrupt NGO's and missionaries , it wasn't of much use anyway....
     
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  7. Nirvana

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    Cut the damn Aid and end the matter !! we don't need goddamn aid from U.K

    When someone say's "They have Money to buy french Fighter's but they don't have Money to feed their Poor's " - one should Not forget that "Defence" is an Integral part for a Country like India which is Sourrounded by Hostile Nuclear Powered Neighbour's like China and Pakistan

    To feed the Poor's we Need to first defend them and keep them Alive

    Brits have lost it since they lost the goddamn deal
     
  8. tangocharlie

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    I strongly agree to cut down the Aid... the Aid which block us to withstand on our feet. Even If a single person in India contribute a single Indian rupee to Government each month then in a year we can have around US$ 29.3 Billion, Which is triple the forex reserve (US $ 6 Billion) of Pakistan and near to there fiscal year budget (US $ 30 Billion). This shows the power of Indian Population. Also, if not accepting the Aid will make the face value of INR strong in world market. Even I am ready to give more than this amount to Government of India apart of my Yearly taxes only on one condition that we will get a better future than any other country in world.

    - JAI HIND.
     
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    The Britisher's should not forget the Wealth they Looted from India when they Brag about financial aid

    The Media over there could have acted more Professionally , they should have respected the decision

     
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    Pride seems to be more important then people in India starving to death, or maybe India just wants more charity.
     
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    Butting their noses into affairs of others seems to be more important to certain Americans, especially when they've got no idea what they're talking about. Or maybe said Americans are trying to get in on the "charity", to save their own economy and all.
     
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  12. Guynextdoor

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    There's nothing wrong with what the Indian FM said and it's very clear that whatever 'humanitarian' assistance Uk wants to give are in some fantastical way supposed to influence business and political decisions out here. Our focus is clear- we want the tech and industrial base HERE and delusional ideas of colonial relationsips and what we 'ought' to be doing aren't gonna get the UK anywhere.

    Plus, the FM was VERY accurate in his statement. Read:

    According to official transcripts, Mr Mukherjee said: 'We do not require the aid. It is a peanut in our total development exercises.'

    For a country the size of India the aid is really not going to make too much of a dent and instead makes us waste too much time on this instead of other important things.
     
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    Good men and bad men differ radically. Bad men never appreciate kindness shown them, but wise men appreciate and are grateful. Wise men try to express their appreciation and gratitude by some return of kindness, not only to their benefactor, but to everyone.
    Buddha quotes
     
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    We don't WANT to show 'ingratitude'. And I think the fact that a country still beleives that it has to act for a greater good is an admirable thing. But the can of worms in britain's aid program seems to be one filled with less noble intentions. Even that is ok with me...but this seems to be turning into something weird altogether. As if their citizens don't live in the 21st century but an extension of the 18th....I mean...why should India be a point of discussion anyway???? Don't they have their own country and society? If they want to be charitable good, if they want to scale down because of economic issues, that would be unfortunate BUT UNDERSTANDABLE. Why this enormous constituency of public opinion for and against the aid when india herself isn't involved in any of these discussions? Why this emotional backlash? That's because it's a question of Identity, not 'aid'. What India does seems to be linked deeply in their public minds and while we're focussed almost exclusively on minding our own business.
     
  15. DragonKnight

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    I have two suggestions........
    1) If India is planning another 80 aircrafts besides the 126, give it to EF
    OR
    2) If possible counter- offer them financial aid in return for not whining about the loss
     
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