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India To Fast Track Four Projects In Indus River Basin

Discussion in 'International Relations' started by ranjeet, Oct 23, 2016.

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  1. Joe Shearer

    Joe Shearer VETERAN MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    It is a deal that we accepted. Keeping your word is worth a lot in international relations. Otherwise, as a very wise post points out, a massive reputation accompanies a country. Wouldn't want that, would we?

    And the references to bullying and brow-beating were to the attitude you displayed towards another member, not of India vis-a-vis Pakistan, although that would also fit well.
     
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    Have you paid attention to any of what I have said? I clearly mentioned that we should NOT go the Chinese route in the way we operate, but that every once in a while, on certain issues, it is OK to make a move that is in your interest. You can't permanently walk around apologetically, being the world's whipping boy.
     
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    You think they are worried?
     
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    Joe Shearer VETERAN MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    Nor can you permanently walk around flouting every civilised norm of behaviour, without becoming an international pariah like Pakistan.
     
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    They aren't, they're digging their own grave. They've made enemies of every neighbor, AND the US. Russia doesn't actually like them much either in reality. China is setting itself up for a big fall.
     
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    Where have I recommended doing that....? India has already built up an excellent reputation and perception of itself in the world, using some rivers as a leverage to STOP TERRORISM won't tick off the world enough to turn us into a pariah lmfao.

    Even Pakistan FFS hasn't been completely isolated the way we would have hoped, and they have truly broken just about every rule in the book. So what makes you think this one incident would make India a pariah..?
     
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    Keeping your word with a rogue terrorist state that sells nuclear technology to any country..? There's no honor in behaving righteously with the dishonorable. You are truly approaching the height of exaggeration if you are pretending that pulling out of a poor treaty with a terrorist state would garner the same reaction as 70 years worth of Pakistani policy or decades of Chinese expansionist, aggressive policy.

    It's unbelievable.

    And please, those were beyond exaggerated charges.
     
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    What an oversimplification, hats off. Yes, this is so totally like losing virginities isn't it.

    And what is this faux high horse you're riding? When you're dealing with one of the worst, sickest countries in the world, you're gonna have to get a little dirty. But go ahead, don't use unconventional means like shutting off water, lets just continue sitting around threatening use of conventional force as Pakistan continues terrorist attacks with reckless abandon. Great idea.
     
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    Many people who preach morality have forgotten what Lord Krishna conveyed to the world in the battle of Kurukshetra-shat ko shat taa say hee maaro. You can't maintain a high moral ground against a person who is naked like Pakistan. Nang badey Narayana say is a very old and very apt saying. Either make way for the nang or be prepared to be a nanga yourself to deal with him.
    Just last night they have mutilated the body of another of our soldier. Which army in the world does it? Pak Army is now a horde of 7th century blood thirsty muslims. They need to be butchered without mercy and killed in a manner which sets an example for their future generations.
     
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    Precisely, too many people ride around on their moral high horses without realizing that when you are fighting a sick, duplicitous, demented and evil enemy like Pakistan, you have to get a little dirty. And you have to be ready to go to any lengths, you must be gritty and ruthless. This is why Pakistan constantly provokes us, they don't think we have the stomach to go the whole distance with them.

    When you have crooked enemies, you must be twice as crooked. You cannot show the honor and chivalry of Rama when you are fighting in Kurukshetra.
     
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    I agree, They tease us, finger us and do what they want to do with us only bcoz we want to maintain a moral high ground.
     
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    I take it that in your moral calculus, you would happily be dishonorable with a dishonorable country (as defined by you, of course)? And that is acceptable morality? And what, in your opinion, should India do to come to the same level of contemptibility as Pakistan? Behave for 70 years starting now? Or start an expansionist, aggressive policy? The point of course is that you must tell us how far we can go before becoming an international pariah. As you may have noticed, Russia and Turkey are also getting their fair share of contempt. Do we board the second class carriages on this train, then? Where do you think we will stand, or do you think, to repeat a male, chauvinist metaphor that I despise but that a martial race might consider appropriate, would twenty years of honest and upright behaviour lead to a lower sentence for larceny in a criminal court?

    Which charges were beyond exaggeration, btw? do clear that up.
     
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    You of course have your decades of international relations experience with which to set right the government of India and everyone else who disagrees with you. Unconventional means like shutting off water? Just what every cheapskate landlord does in an Indian city to bring his tenant to heel? And that is now dignified as statecraft? LOL. Great idea. What next? Dog droppings on his doorstep?
     
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    That is wonderful, but every strategy that you have suggested so far is one that can be used just as easily against us, as by us. :D
     
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    Of course, that goes without saying, there is no honor in being honorable with the dishonorable, it is foolishness. If you think its smart, go ask Prithviraj Chauhan.

    And you are again deliberately misrepresenting what I said. It is asinine to suggest that I ever said we should build up the type of reputation Pakistan has. I simply said, that our respective standings in the world order being what they are, now that the world can clearly see the moral difference, there is nothing wrong with dealing w/ Pak in a language and style it understands. Your moral elitism is exactly what typical Indian policy was towards Pakistan for 70 years with only a handful of exceptions, and it has NOT worked.
     
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