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India to induct 5th-gen fighter jets by 2018 news

Discussion in 'Indian Air Force' started by tariqkhan18, Apr 25, 2010.

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  1. tariqkhan18

    tariqkhan18 Major Staff Member ADMINISTRATOR

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    As part of India's efforts to effectively meet the emerging threats in its immediate geographical environment the Russo-Indian fifth generation fighter aircraft programme (FGFA) will result in state-of-the art stealth fighters being inducted into the Indian Air Force by 2018.

    According to Indian Air Force chief, Air Marshal PV Naik, "The fifth generation aircraft would possess technologies which would provide it (India) the edge over adversaries in future air warfare,"

    "China is rapidly modernising its air force," he said. "On our part, the IAF is reviewing its tactics regularly to increase its combat potential."

    The Russo-Indian PAK-FA fifth-generation fighters, slated to match and outperform the US F-22 Raptor, can evade sophisticated radars and operate from short airstrips. It also has longer enduarnce than the current lot of fighters, being able to stay in the air for a lomger period of time, air force officials said.

    India plans to procure at least 200 of the 5th-gen PAK-FA fighters, each valued at $100 million. India will spend atleast $32 billion over the next five years to modernise its largely Soviet-era weapons systems.

    Though governmnet-level agreements are already in place for the PAK-FA programme, teh two companies India's Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) and the Russian designer and manufacturer, the Sukhoi design bureau, are yet to work out the details.
    But this, officials say, is a mere formality and will be locked in some time this year.

    State-run Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd is expected to build the mission computer, cockpit displays and other navigation systems for the aircraft as also design and construct the two-seater variation of the aircraft. While the IAF will be opting for the two-seat variant of the fighter the Russians are opting for the single seat-variant. Both sides, though, will be inducting small quantities of both variants.

    India is also in the market for 126 multi-role, medium range fighters and a short list of finalists for the $11 billion contract is expected to be declared by June-July of this year.

    Apart from inducting state-of-the art aircraft into its force and upgrading existing aircraft to suit the modern fighting environment, India also plans to upgrade more than 50 airbases along the Chinese and Pakistan border, air marshal Naik said.
     
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  2. Break the Silence

    Break the Silence FULL MEMBER

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    surely a great news, But earlier , i had heard that they(IAF) will induct this 5th gen beast in 2016-17, but it seems it will delay upto 2018, as according to this news, Btw Sir, can you provide some latest pics of pakfa in this thread.
    Thanx!
     
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    hotstud69 Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]

    the above is a single seater but for india most are twin seater
     
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    jagjitnatt Major ELITE MEMBER

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    The plane to be inducted in 2016-17 is the PakFa. It will be inducted by Russia then. India will induct FGFA, the two seater version of PakFa a couple of years later in 2017.
     
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    its got the best radar capabilities in business!!!!!
     
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    jagjitnatt Major ELITE MEMBER

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    As of now I don't think there is anything ground breaking about PakFa. Its rcs would be nowhere near F-22 or F-35. Actually a lot of people believe that stealth has everything to do with shapes, although shapes are important but they are not the deciding factor.

    The deciding factor is the material which is used to build the aircraft. In case of B-2 and F-117 shapes were never the dominant factor but the RAM coatings. With the use of RAM coatings, and composites rcs was decreased below 0.1 m2.

    In case of PakFa, the prototypes which have flown till date have flown without the RAM coatings, so today their rcs would be somewhere around 0.1-0.5 m2. It is only after the composites and RAM coatings that the rcs will decrease and as of today no one can predict the rcs as Russians haven't used RAM coatings till date.

    According to me the final rcs could be somewhere around 0.01 m2. That would be more that enough by my estimates. Where F-22 and F-35 have powerful defences with stealth, PakFa is more about detecting these aircraft and slaughter them with the powerful offense.

    Stealth wise:

    F22 > F35 > PakFa

    Weapons and Radar wise:

    PakFa > F22 > F35

    Maneuverability and Range:

    PakFa > F22 > F35


    Here's an analysis of PakFa vs F22 and F35
    http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-NOTAM-300309-1.html
     
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  7. Devianz

    Devianz 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    Most people at keypub and militaryphotos believe that PAK-FA would be stealthier or atleast as stealthy as JSF.
    There were also debates on PAK-FA having comparable structural stealth features(without RAM) form frontal aspect and better on side aspect when compared with F-22A. Also note that F-22 is chubbier and has a much larger vertical stabs. The rear would be at least as stealthy as JSF once they put on the new engines with serrated tooth design and IR absorbent ceramic linings.
    The designers are also working on 2-D flat nozzles like on F-22s.

    The final product most definitely wont be as stealthy as F-22A because of the type of skin and RAM used. F-22s skin and RAM coatings are extremely costly and almost impractical to maintain for RuAF and IAF.

    The analysis you have shown dates back to march 2009 i.e before anyone got a look at how PAK-FA looks like.
    Here are the latest analysis given by Dr. Carlo Kopp and Peter Goon.

    Assessing the Sukhoi PAK-FA
    http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-2010-01.html#mozTocId548526

    Why the F-22 and the PAK-FA have the “Right Stuff” and why the F/A-18 and the F-35 do not
    http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-NOTAM-300310-1.html
     
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  8. Indian

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    Guys i have one query, Is Pak-FA gona use RCS reduction and RAM coating , what abt the Plasma Stealth which we are lisetning from last decade. Are they planning some completly different saga for Stealth ??
     
  9. Devianz

    Devianz 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    Bro, it's a 5th gen stealth fighter. Of course it's going to use RCS reduction and RAM coatings. Even MiG-29K and Su-35S uses RAM coatings. PAK-FA RCS reduction features include stealth shaping to deflect radar waves, composite skins and RAM coatings.
     
  10. booo

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    It was agreed by some big guy in russian research firm that plasma stealth is not mature enough to be applied for large bodies. so pak-fa wont have any.
     
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