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India to spend over $25 billion to induct 250 - 5th-gen stealth fighters

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  1. abirbec04

    abirbec04 Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    "NEW DELHI: India will eventually spend over $25 billion to induct 250 advanced stealth fifth-generation fighter aircraft (FGFA), on way to being co-developed with Russia, in what will be the country's biggest-ever defence project.

    With a potent mix of super-manoeuvrability and supersonic cruising ability, long-range strike and high-endurance air defence capabilities, each FGFA will cost upwards of Rs 450 crore or around $100 million.

    This will be in addition to the huge investment to be made in co-developing FGFA with cash-strapped Russia, as also the huge infrastructure required to base, operate and maintain such jets in India.

    "We are looking to induct 200 to 250 FGFA in phases from 2017 onwards,'' confirmed IAF chief Air Chief Marshal P V Naik on Monday. As reported by TOI earlier, New Delhi and Moscow are looking to ink the FGFA preliminary design contract when Russian President Dmitry Medvedev comes visiting here in December.

    Under intense negotiations for the last four-five years, the FGFA project will also figure in the talks between defence minister A K Antony and his Russian counterpart Anatoly Serdyukov on October 8.

    Though the Indian FGFA will based on the Russian Sukhoi T-50 PAK-FA, which flew for the first time this January at the Komsomolsk-on-Amur facility in Siberia, it will be built to IAF's specifications. It's already being touted as superior to the American F/A-22 `Raptor', the world's only operational FGFA as of now.

    ACM Naik said the 30-tonne FGFA will be a "swing-role fighter, with very advanced avionics, stealth to increase survivability, enhanced lethality, 360 degree situational awareness, smart weapons, data-links, high-end mission computers'' and the like.

    Along with 126 medium multi-role combat aircraft, which India plans to acquire in a $10.4 billion project, 270 Sukhoi-30MKIs contracted from Russia for around $12 billion and 120 indigenous Tejas Light Combat Aircraft, the FGFA will be the mainstay of India's air combat fleet for the foreseeable future.

    Even as the Army revises its war doctrine to factor in the worst-case scenario of a simultaneous two-front war with Pakistan and China, is IAF also preparing for the same?

    "Our modernisation plans are based on the four pillars of `see, reach, hit and protect'...We prepare for a multi-faceted, multi-dimensional, multi-front war,'' said ACM Naik.

    "But our approach is capability-based, not adversary-specific. Our modernisation drive is in tune with our nation's aspirations,'' he said, adding that India's strategic interests stretched "from Hormuz Strait to Malacca Strait and beyond''.

    To a volley of questions on China and Pakistan, IAF chief said, "All neighbours, from the smallest to the largest, have to be watched with caution...Their capabilities have to be assessed...Anything that can upset the growth of our nation is a matter of concern.''

    With the new planned inductions in the pipeline, IAF's obsolescence rate will come down to 20% by 2014-15 from the current 50% or so. "But this does not mean that we are not fully capable of defending the country from any air or space threat at the moment...We are,'' said ACM Naik."

    Read more: India to spend over $25 billion to induct 250 5th-gen stealth fighters - The Times of India India to spend over $25 billion to induct 250 5th-gen stealth fighters - The Times of India
     
  2. Leonidas

    Leonidas FULL MEMBER

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    With that news, some people from our neighbourhood are going to react like this..[​IMG]

    :lol::lol::lol:


    Great move IAF..:tup::tup:
     
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    prototype Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    Ya thats a huge figure,by the way the i think including the operational cost and weapons and training the cost will b over $75 billion
     
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    Guynextdoor Lt. Colonel SENIOR MEMBER

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    Something not right abt this figure.
     
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    prototype Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    ^^which figure
     
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    abirbec04 Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    $100 Million x 250 = $25000 Million = $25000/1000 Billion = $ 25 Billion.

    Absolutely spot on the price.

    P.S. - F22 costs $356 Million per plane.
     
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    prototype Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    $356 million is lifetime cost,not fly away cost

    By the way i think FGFA also cost as somewhere near $300 million in its lifetime
     
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    Averageamerican Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    The USSR had a pretty large economy, not a good one but a large one and could not compete with the USA in terms of advanced air craft past the time of of the Korea War. Now that Russia's econmy is 1/7 that of the USA and so is their Defense budget India seems to think they can produce advance air craft. My predictions are by the time these advanced 5th generation aircraft come on line is that there were be cheaper advance stealthy combat drones that will make these 5 generation aircraft obsolete.
     
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    RoYaN Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    How is that relevant in the discussion????????Please don't troll......

    Reality check the T-50 has been produced and all indications are that the production variant are on track and no delays are expected....
    Thats a whole different debate the drones are not replacing Manned fighters any time soon.........
    Work on that F-35 before you rant about the PAKFA and FGFA...
    About the
     
  10. Naren1987

    Naren1987 Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    But you guys are still working on the JSF and F-15 SE.
     
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    i think even the flyaway cost will exceed 100 million 2010 US dollars per piece. add to that 6B+ in development costs for india too. this will be a pretty expensive deal overall.

    do keep in mind inflation and that these are 2010 US dollars.

    so when these aircraft are actually delivered, we could be easily end up paying 150 million 2018/2020 dollars per aircraft.
     
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    A great move from IAF and really alarming situation for her neighbours...
     
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    India, Russia to discuss new giant fighter jet deal

    NEW DELHI — India and Russia will hold talks this week on a multi-billion-dollar deal to supply up to 250 advanced stealth fighter jets to the technology-starved Indian Air Force, officials said on Tuesday.

    Experts say the deal could be worth 25 billion dollars, making it the biggest in India's military history.

    A defence ministry official who did not want to be named said the contract would be the focus of talks on Saturday during a visit to India by Russian Defence Minister Anatoly Serdyukov.

    "These are ongoing talks and will definitely come up in the discussions," he told AFP.

    The Times of India said New Delhi and Moscow aimed to ink the FGFA (Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft) preliminary design contract during a trip to India by President Dmitry Medvedev in December. Ministry officials declined to comment on the newspaper report.

    On Monday, Air Force Chief P.V. Naik confirmed India would acquire the advanced jets from Russia, which supplies about 70 percent of Indian military hardware -- a legacy of the countries' Cold War ties.

    "We are looking to induct 200 to 250 FGFA in phases from 2017," the air chief marshal told reporters, adding that about 50 percent of air force hardware was now out of date.

    "Around 50 percent of our equipment is obsolete and needs to be replaced.

    "Ten years ago we had no money for modernisation. This caused some delays. Subsequent planning will fructify by 2014-15," he said.

    The 30-ton FGFA aircraft -- priced at 100 million dollars each, according to the Times of India -- will have "very advanced avionics, stealth to increase survivability (and) enhanced lethality," Naik added.

    India plans to mothball its mainstay MiG-21 Soviet-era fighter jets, which have earned the sobriquet "flying coffins" because of their dismal safety record.

    The ministry official said India was also seeking 40 additional Sukhoi-30 frontline fighter planes from Russia.

    "The original plan was to acquire 230 Sukhoi-MKI planes but the list has now grown to 270 and so far around 100 aircraft have been delivered to us," he said.

    Experts estimate the Sukhoi deal would be worth 12 billion dollars.

    India is building military airbases on its borders with China to thwart possible attacks.

    "As and when more airbases come up in the east, more Sukhois will be added," the ministry official commented, adding the airforce was also on target to commission 20 locally-built Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) by 2011.

    India is also poised to hand out a contract for 126 fighter jets as part of a separate 12-billion dollar deal for which six global aeronautical giants are in the race.

    India is reportedly also negotiating a 3.5-billion dollar aircraft defence deal with the United States that will be signed in November when President Barack Obama visits the Indian capital.

    The US agreement will see the Indian air force buy 10 C-17 Globemaster transport aircraft, which are expected to replace the ageing fleet of Russian Ilyushin Il-76s, India's Economic Times newspaper reported recently.

    AFP: India, Russia to discuss new giant fighter jet deal
     
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