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India, US should go for pre-emptive strikes, destroy Pak's N-assets: Ex-US senator

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  1. lca-fan

    lca-fan Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    India, US should go for pre-emptive strikes, destroy Pak's N-assets: Ex-US senator
    By : Vaibhav Purandare

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    MUMBAI:
    Suggesting that both India and the US conduct preemptive strikes inside Pakistan to destroy its nuclear sites (where weapons have either already been stored or are being made), former US Senator Larry Pressler told TOI on Monday that Donald Trump may turn out to be the best American president yet for India as he had recently put Pakistan on notice for harbouring terrorists.

    But for this to happen, Trump would have to get around the Pentagon, which always encouraged Pakistan, he said. Such encouragement emboldened Pakistan to attack India as "the mother of terrorism" and "predator" at the UN general assembly session on Sunday, he added. Trump's description of the Pentagon as "a swamp" was a good sign, he noted, hoping the US president would drain it soon (as he'd promised).

    A three-term Senator and twice a member of the House of Representatives, Pressler (75) authored the famous Pressler Amendment which in 1990 blocked US military aid to Pakistan when the then US President George H W Bush could not certify Pakistan was not developing nukes.

    As the delivery of close to 30 F-16 aircraft to Islamabad was barred, Pressler, then a Republican and head of the Senate's arms control subcommittee, became something of a hero in India and, in his own words, "a devil in Pakistan." His new book, Neighbours in Arms, engagingly tells the story of the amendment and of the US foreign policy that enabled Pakistan to develop nuclear weapons and casts a severe spotlight on the culture of lobbying in Washington and the grip of the military-industrial state ("the Octopus") inside the US.
    Pressler has long distanced himself from the Republican Party — he contested Senate polls as an Independent in 2014 and backed Hillary Clinton in the 2016 Presidential polls — but despite differences with Trump, he feels the president is not doing half as badly as US media suggests.

    Trump's warning to Pakistan on its sheltering and export of terror, linking of US aid to "action on terror" and his request to India to "help us more with Afghanistan" signalled a recasting of relations.

    http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...assets-ex-us-senator/articleshow/60837031.cms

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  2. Scotlander

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    Thanks but no thanks.:bunny: US should Drop Or Invent a bomb which can kill everyone living in the Places where Nukes are Stored & De-Nuclearise Pòrkies.:biggthumpup:
     
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    Those times long passed. While, you were the eternal protector of the realm.
     
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    lca-fan Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    US is looking at destroying Asia especially China & India as both these countries have potential to outgrow US and take top 2 position in everything be it Economy, currency, military strength, education, manufacturing strength, etc. which will end western Hegemony into everything and Raw Power will shift from west to Asia. So they are trying to preemptively cut short both China & India & Asia on whole by inciting animosity and finally war which will destroy Asian countries so west can enjoy lead forever.............................

    Look what they did to Middle East and you will see the pattern..........
     
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    Nope. Its opposite they need more integration to us to fuel their future growth. Two way relationship. Just like china need US and vise versa.

    Take these senates words as our subramanya swamy's opinions on US matters.

    Its result of their own differences and arrogance. US was actually a modarator compared to UK who made the mess.
     
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    Have they ?? I'd like to see some informed opinions about it given that there's a lot of Internet chatter in different forums ( including this one ) on preparations by Indo-Israeli-American preparations towards this end .
    PSK has been wishing for this since 2011.

    What's your opinion about this ?@Hellfire @PARIKRAMA @randomradio @vstol jockey
     
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    The time to do this was years ago. There is simply no way to handle every single Pakistani nuke (Especially all the loose TNW's floating around the country) anymore with any great degree of certainty.
     
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    And then followed by ground ops to secure PoK. Btw the failproof way will be to get surprise......Iran onboard the plan. China can in the meantime suckle on something.
    The plot thickens:biggthumpup:
     
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    Still doesn't explain why the US Israeli special forces keep practising such manoeuvres along with their Indian counterparts .

    If what you're claiming were a certainty , we wouldn't be hearing of such exercises being conducted .

    Witness the special hearings in the Congress to the House Committee on Defence , Foreign Affairs & Non proliferation where senior administration officials from the Bush ( junior not senior ) adminstration onwards routinely go up before such committees and re assure them that in case of doomsday scenarios where the C&C of the NWP programme of Pakistan is compromised and they're in danger of losing control to rogue elements , the US has contingency measures in place to deal with such a likelihood .

    Mind you , this isn't the Indian Parliament where members routinely lie through their teeth and get away with it .Bearing false testimony to the US Congress arracts steep penalties and a stiff jail term .

    Curiously , We don't see any mention of similar measures in case of DPRK .
     
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    I'm well aware of everything you've mentioned. And yes, America has had contingency plans in place for a very long time, but anyone who thinks that those plans guarantee absolute success, and ensure that every single loose TNW floating around Pakistan can be accounted for; is deeply mistaken.

    It's not as straight forward as having a list of locations and somehow launching a coordinated, successful set of raids on every single location and securing the warheads without any mishaps at any of the locations. There are a million different details and technicalities. And due to the nature of Pakistan's stockpile (they intentionally keep their weapons spread out and hidden because they've been paranoid about the US for a very long time), I think it's pretty much inevitable that even if such an operation is launched, at least a couple of TNW's will end up in rogue hands, and when that happens, it's India that's next door, not the US or even Israel.
     
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    Then if push comes to shove , we might as well bite the bullet and be prepared to face up to the threat of a few TNW's in the hands of rogue operatives / jihadis .

    What's the worst that could happen ? A few of them go of in our territory and result in massive casualties of our countrymen . In turn we do to Pakistan What Rome did to Carthage .
    Plough their land and sow salt .Tonnes of them .
     
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    One needs to be bold and fearless to take that decision. Trump Modi or XYZ is neither bold nor have the balls to risk doing it. everyone will just pass it on to the next generation.
     
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    bharathp Developers Guild Developers -IT and R&D

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    it was the colonial powers that destoryed thriving civlizations in the garb of spreading the gospel or teaching civilization.

    China/taiwan
    India/Pakistan
    Israel being promised by the British and they left behind a mess



    then came the cold war with Communism and Capitlaism fight
    N.Korea/South Korea
    East european countries

    now the slow islamization of countries is creating similar mistrust and differences.
     
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    bharathp Developers Guild Developers -IT and R&D

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    the risk factor is just too much. without destroying the network with which they got the nukes, if we just destroy the nukes, they will simply get it again and this time, actually use it. the best way forward is to make the cost of using nukes unacceptable to anyone who wants to use it.
     

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