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Indian Army Artillery

Discussion in 'Indian Army' started by MilSpec, Dec 22, 2016.

  1. Wolfpack

    Wolfpack Captain FULL MEMBER

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    That is like moving your artillery into a Hex in Civilization game,from where you can safely hit enemy city.:slowride:
     
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    Wolfpack Captain FULL MEMBER

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    If OFB and IA embrace the new technology of 3D printing,we don't need 4-5 years,we can do it in just 6 months.
     
  3. MilSpec

    MilSpec Mod MODERATOR

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    Quite challenging, isn't it a 52 cal system. It is pretty much a Giant.
     
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    Bloom 17 2nd Lieutant IDF NewBie

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    Can someone post the operational ranges of M777, dhanush and ATAGS? Thankyou
     
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    This will be followed by the procurement of 1,850 ATAGS 155mm/52-cal towed howitzers.


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    Both Archer's FH-77 and Ceasar (anyone know what the gun is?) are also 52 caliber.

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    The ATAGS is really no different from any other artillery gun, like this Swedish FH-77, with forms the basis of the Archer System. Remove the gunner's seat, remove the wheels and stabilizers and add a pivot. That's what it takes to make a gun such as the FH-77 ready for being mounted on a vehicle. Making it ready to fire requires a bit of automation.

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    The question is more about finding a suitable vehicle to mount it on then anything else. Modifying the gun wont be too much of a problem. In fact, in this configuration it's almost ready as is. The gunner's seat needs to go, to save weight, and if possible some weight will need to be shaved off the other side as well to retain balance. But if that's not possible the gun can be enclosed like on the Archer and an internal counterweight added to the turret.



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    It's Norwegian for "Wide Load."

    But yeah, it opens us up to some naughty jokes too:D.
     
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    well the biggest order which french have got so far from India in the form of rafales, has emboldened them to pursue many such avenues of different platforms of weapons. Subs and fighters they have already bagged the deals. Now some will suit india some not because of varoety of options like ingenuousness or MII collaboration or from other countries

    Some sort of critical defense partnership with French is developing and is always welcome, there weapons are as good as US weapon systems and are crucially sanctions free even in event of war and most importantly India and french are not going to cross ways of each other in geo political affairs unlike US. where many problems may come out of no where on any issue (Trump is one such glaring example)
     
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    Nice presentation.... PR fellows for DRDO should learn from this, seen to many field presentation - where the guy when presenting either repeats himself or just mumbles thru

    Is the Cabin for the Ashok Leyland - armoured?
     
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    Abingdonboy Major IDF NewBie

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    Very true, fully exepect Nexter to bag the 814 unit MGS order soon.


    Can't expect a DRDO engineer to compete with a professional salesman from a global OEM!

    Just what I was wondering, it certainly doesn't look as armoured as the Renualt truck:

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  13. GuardianRED

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    Hmmm.... just looking at the product range for AL. This model isn't part of it. Also as the sales guy did say that this Model is a civilian Model.

    So maybe for testing/ prototype they used this model . We might see a different chassis - similar to the FAT, used here soon
     
  14. Ankit Kumar 001

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    I deleted my earlier comment as I realised that Dhanush 155/45 is costing us 14 crore per piece.

    Meanwhile 12 Soltam ATHOS costed 8.2 Million USD for Philippines.That is a little over 4.5 Crore per piece.
     
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    Ankit Kumar 001 Major REGISTERED

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    The Nexter and Elbit , both were offering around 1400+ Towed Howitzers in 1.1 Billion USD.

    I am suddenly having a soft corner for these.

    The truth is, we need towed artillery in huge numbers. And 1800 ATAGS + 1400 ELBIT/NEXTER + 414 Dhanush would be very good.
     

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