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Indian Army Artillery

Discussion in 'Indian Army' started by MilSpec, Dec 22, 2016.

  1. kakathiya

    kakathiya FULL MEMBER

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    absolutely, these OFB made rounds will make guns made of unobtainium useless :no: poor Danush guns became victim of the OFB's ineptness,
     
  2. MilSpec

    MilSpec Mod Staff Member MODERATOR

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    Both sides need to explain them selves a little better.
    If OFB indeed is so confident, share it's FMEA and DPPM numbers.
    Now that said, ammunition failure will happen, top dollar match grade ammo in rifles too fail, the pertinent question for army is what is the failure rate acceptable to the army, are there suppliers who would take a penalty and liability of equipment damage if they fail to meet the needed reliability of ammunition.

    Given OFB's track record of zero innovation and shitty products, and Army's record of massive corruption in acquisitions, both parties do not have legs to stand on.
     
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    zebra7 Captain FULL MEMBER

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    What if the fault is in the FUSE that triggered while shell is in the barrel
     
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  4. kakathiya

    kakathiya FULL MEMBER

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    I wonder wether the imported shells blow up in the barrel, there is quality issues in OFB now I hear the OFB employees will go on strike for taking strict measures, all these years their ineptness was not seen, lol.
     
  5. Gessler

    Gessler Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    Current artillery procurement plans :

    Towed Howitzers
    • 1850 -- ATAGS -- 155mm, 52-cal ~ DRDO, Kalyani Group/Tata
    • 414 -- Dhanush 45 -- 155mm, 45-cal ~ OFB
    • 645 -- M777 -- 155mm, 39-cal ~ BAE
    Total 2909 Towed Howitzers

    Self-Propelled Howitzers

    • 250 -- K9 Vajra -- 155mm, 52-cal ~ Hanwha-Techwin, L&T
    • 814 -- Caesar (undecided) -- 155mm, 52-cal ~ Nexter, L&T, Ashok Leyland
    Total 1064 SPHs

    Rocket Artillery

    • ??? -- Pinaka-III -- 300mm ~ DRDO
    • 62 -- BM30 Smerch -- 300mm ~ some Ruskie company I'm too lazy to look up
    • 120 -- Pinaka Mk.1/2/2ER -- 214mm ~ DRDO, L&T
    Total 182+ Rocket Arty

    That adds up to a known number of 4155+ major arty pieces currently envisaged for procurement/already procured. Haven't included the smaller 105mm field guns, upgrades to the M46 and all that....

    Am I missing something? Will we be looking for a replacement of the IFGs anytime soon? How about a 4x4 mounted solution like that Kalyani Garuda 105 offer?

    @Abingdonboy @PARIKRAMA @Hellfire @MilSpec @randomradio @Agent_47
     
  6. Hellfire

    Hellfire Devil's Advocate Staff Member MODERATOR

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    IFG may or may not get replaced with upgunning to 155 mm .... on lines with M777. Let's see.
     
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  7. kakathiya

    kakathiya FULL MEMBER

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    nothing's going to happen it seems our artillery commanders r clueless what to choose or what to do, as they keep on harping on some futuristic artillery, they will get nothing & what's this up gunning Indian field gun, our OFB is so inept we r not going to see them in our lifetime, only hope is our private companies make a good product & win the trials & the contract, nowadays every manufacturer if afraid of Indian trials, lol.
     
  8. Gessler

    Gessler Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    Among all those guns mentioned by me above, the only one who's as yet undecided is the Mounted Gun System (MGS) requirement (wheeled SPH).

    Rest all are deal-done. M777? Ordered. K9? Ordered. ATAGS & Dhanush? Former is proceeding at a brisk pace of testing while latter is entering production.

    Smerch is already operational for decades, Pinaka production is ongoing (it's also battle-proven in Kargil) with new rocket versions (with guidance system) emerging, each with increasing range. 300mm indigenous MBRL has only recently been announced.

    We already successfully up-gunned the M46 so doing something similar on IFG is not something inconceivable.
     
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  9. Agent_47

    Agent_47 Admin - Blog Staff Member MODERATOR

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    I don't think there will be more M777 orders. On MGS, OFB and BAE are partnering to make a worthy competition to Caesar.

    https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...range-artillery-guns/articleshow/60266647.cms
     
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  10. Gessler

    Gessler Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    Zer0reZ 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    Do we have such platform?? Kestrel??


    Skip 5:53
     

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