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Indian Army conducts surgical strikes across LoC

Discussion in 'International Relations' started by vstol jockey, Sep 29, 2016.

  1. TickTickIndian

    TickTickIndian BANNED BANNED

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    What is the predictions for our nation in the long term, by you, can you start a thread on that?? I'm asking this with a professional POV, I want to plan accordingly.

    And also predications on things like Akhand Bharat, recovering Kailash Manasarovar, etc.
     
  2. Flyboy!

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    You speak as if nuking is like lighting lavangi bombs during diwali.
     
  3. TickTickIndian

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    Yahh :) Only because it is Pakistan. I don't pity them.

    I thought, if we nuke Pakistan, one major problem solved without wasting bullets and missiles.
    Also, we will get sanctioned, which will be great for indiginaization and MII.
     
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    I said, let us nuke after we get BMD and more fighters. And also some achievements in Vedic Scalar Weapons.
    I know we're not in a position to go to war today without gambling with our survival, and I was constantly asserting for some time for weapons and defenne development.
     
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  5. Flyboy!

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    dude. the use of a nuclear weapon will lead to a world event.
     
  6. TickTickIndian

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    Put it this way: World event is less threatening than Pakistan surviving with its weapons capability constantly growing and its population growing more and more radical with each passing decade.

    Pakistan is a nation which does not care about its own survival. It is an irrational enemy, a suicide bomber nation.

    The rest of the world as an enemy is much more easy to handle than Pakistan.
     
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    The reason you think Pakistan is less a problem is because of its small size in a map, but the damage it can do is much worse than any world superpower, because the greatest weapon with all these superpowers is the nuclear weapon, but Pakistan also has that. So ha essentially make them equal in non-conventional capability. The thing that sets Pak apart and makes it a much bigger threat is that, atleast MAD will work with the reast of the world, but not Pakistan.

    The rest of the world is less an enemy when you compare it with Nulcear Jihadist Suicide bomber Pakistan.
     
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    Not to be surprised if there is a military coup in Pakistan soon
     
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    Hence they activated their agents in India to demand video proof lol , clever:award:
     
  10. Golden_Rule

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    It is India's and US common interest to stop China to access the IOR via Pakistan since it further weakens the petro-dollar. The US has other interest to eliminate china's bullying in the SCS, again to limit energy independence of china. Then there is global interest including EU against China's occupation of the territory of Independent Tibet, Independent Uyghur, Independent Inner Mongolia and Independent Manchuria.

    For all of the above to execute, India is the pivot. Hence the first event to happen will be what India is interested in. And India's prime interest is the elimination of the terror entity called Pakistan. This elimination will happen soon. Maybe it is scheduled after the Oct 31 Mars exaltation event. India simply need to recover POK to obstruct china.
     
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    If you corroborate the follow-up acts in pakistan, there is a good chance to support this theory that probably Hafiz Saeed has been captured by the Indian SF during the surgical attacks. Nawaz Sharif's own party member is asking why we are supporting terrorists against India; then the POK Kotli protest against the Deheshadgard may be staged to create a euphoria in public against HS; all of this may be a background work to temporarily justify HS disappearance as if the pakistani government has indeed taken him in custody ?!?!?
     
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    My dear friend, Hafiz Saeed is still making public appearances and threatening India and Zee News about teaching meaning of surgical strike. :coffee:

    Have a Nice Weekend!
     
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    Where are the resident aaptards and what is their reaction to Kujli's drama and singing the tune of pakistani? What happened to their sudden pseudo nationalism they showed during URI attacks now?

    But props for Kujli for being faithful to his masters in pakistan and the Dilliwallas who voted for him. Dilliwallahs have given the Bong a run for their money in cuckery and lack of self respect
     
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    Kudo's to the govt for not releasing the video......There is no point in making few politicians happy, Strategic implications are high here.........
     
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    When India’s Special Forces crossed the Line of Control (LoC) on the night of September 28, they attacked the terrorist camps with a variety of deadly weapons. According to investigative reporter and author Vicky Nanjappa, the commandos destroyed their targets with grenade launchers, rocket launchers and Shmel infantry flamethrowers.
    Two days after the Uri attack, the Intelligence Bureau signalled to the army that it had picked up chatter which suggested that a big batch of terrorists would be moving closer to the LoC, says Nanjappa. The armed forces wanted the big batch to move in completely before launching this strike. One officer said there was no point in crossing the LoC and just destroying the launch pads. They would have built new ones immediately.
    “Our intention was to inflict maximum damage and we wanted to snuff out their lives," the officer pointed out.
    The Indian Army first targeted terror training camps up to 20 km deep inside Pakistan-occupied Kashmir (PoK) with heavy artillery. The terrorists scattered under the surprise artillery fire and took shelter in launching pads along the LoC. The Special Forces commandos then entered PoK.
    From the get-go, the LoC strike was a take-no-prisoners mission. “The forces were told to just hit them and return,” says Nanjappa. The weapons were chosen to inflict the maximum casualties possible. Instead of using their assault rifles, the Indian commandos opened fire with rocket launchers and Shmel flamethrowers from the moment they came within range of these camps.
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    The Russian made ‘Shmel’ has the effect of a mini nuclear weapon and is designed to pulverize its target. The word flamethrower is in fact a misnomer because it is not a flame spewing weapon. The Shmel fires a ‘thermobaric’ warhead which works by dispersing a highly flammable fuel vapor, then igniting this cloud while it hangs over the target. The resulting blast generates a 3000-degree Celsius fireball that not only causes powerful burns but also a high pressure shockwave that sucks out all the oxygen an area of 50 square metres outdoors and 80 cubic meters indoors.
    In each of the terrorist launch pads across the LoC, there were around five terrorists. Many of them would have been shredded to bits in their sleep. Those in the vicinity of the explosion would have suffered horrendous internal injuries from the compression. Even for a jihadist terrorist prepared for a one-way suicide mission, it is an incredibly unpleasant way to go.
    Soviet and Russian troops who used the weapon in Afghanistan and Chechnya often talk about how a thermobaric shell blast inside a one-story stone house would literally throw the entire roof into the air. A direct hit on a light armoured vehicle or personnel carrier is also guaranteed to knock it out. The Afghan Mujahidin referred to the Shmel as “Shaitan’s (the Devil’s) Pipe”.
    According to Nanjappa, the Lashkar-e-Taiba may have lost at least 20 of its terrorists in the strike while 18 belonged to the Jaish-e-Mohammad. There are other media reports that say much larger numbers of terrorists and Pakistan Army soldiers may have perished.
    The number of enemy casualties in the raid will never be known because as is the Pakistan Army’s habit, it would have hidden the dead bodies. Most likely, bulldozers would have been used to remove all evidence. During the 1999 Kargil War, the Indian Air Force attacked the Northern Light Infantry troop concentrations, resulting in hundreds of dead Pakistani soldiers. However, the Pakistan Army refused to take back its dead and it was the Indian Army that gave enemy soldiers a quiet burial.
    Flamethrowers: Deadly in any Era
    A US Army report notes that flamethrowers are still “an important asset in the Russian manoeuvre commander’s toolbox.” It cites a full report on Russia’s use of flamethrowers from the Foreign Military Studies Office, an open source research organization of the US Army.
    The report isn’t written in a critical tone. It says that at a time when other armies are re-evaluating the value of flamethrowers, Russia has demonstrated their “usefulness for urban and mountain warfare, bunker busting, and clearing light infantry”.
    “From a Russian military perspective, flamethrowers are seen not as weapons simply to be handed out to the rank-and-file for any ad-hoc use, but instead as a mature weapon system that filled specific capability gaps in the Russian Armed Forces force structure," notes OE Watch, the US Army Foreign Military Studies Office's monthly newsletter.
    OE Watch interpreted Russia's expansion of thermobaric units as a sign the Kremlin is preparing for urban warfare in the future.
    "As Russia experiments with new forms and methods of war, or 'hybrid war' as defined in the West, in Eastern Ukraine, urban warfare will likely continue to be a high priority for development, and so will Russia's flame-wielding NBC defence troops."
    The 93 mm calibre Shmel comes in three varieties – fuel-air explosive or thermobaric (RPO-A), smoke composition (RPO-D) and incendiary composition (RPO-Z). The blast effect of the thermobaric warhead is roughly equivalent to the blast effect of a 107 mm high explosive artillery shell.

    http://www.indiandefensenews.in/2016/10/russian-flamethrower-shmel-spearheaded.html
     
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