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Indian Army conducts surgical strikes across LoC

Discussion in 'International Relations' started by vstol jockey, Sep 29, 2016.

  1. kamalakumar

    kamalakumar BANNED BANNED

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    Brilliant response sir.

    Idon't understand this bania mentality of most indians- economy/moola over self respect, honor, and most important of all- long term vision. Getting rid of pakistan will get rid of 50% of our problems and yet the hindu morons seems to have internalised the cowardly propaganda from Liberals that economic growth is possible only with peace. That's bull shit.

    Usa is the biggest war mongerer in the history of Human civilisation . They have never went without starting a war for on decade since their creation in 1776 . They have warred - Britain, Canada, Mexico, Phillips, Hawaii, Japan, Germany, Ussr, NoKo, Vietnam, Iraq twice, Afghanistan, etc etc etc. Look where they are now vs where we are now and we have warred with only one country since 1947 and that too 3 wars were forced on us. Obviously not going to war hasn't helped us much now has it?
     
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    Anyway, let me add my own language against the economy over honor and practicality argument - if you are willing to put a price on your honor, what is stopping you from putting a price on your women? Isn't that pathetic. This if anything shows how deep indian consciousness has called due to foreign rule. For a civilisation with a war dharma book as the holy book, the Bhagavat Gita , it is pathetic to speak about unjustified peace.

    Any war with pak to end its miserable and pathetic existence is a justified Dharmic war and any inaction towards that goal is Adharmic. Time to restore dharma.
     
  3. kamalakumar

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    On the contrary, that's what excellent leadership looks like. Look how beautiful his misdirection in Kozhikode was. No one saw these strikes coming. This is how you wage this war in this day and age- misdirection followed by blow.

    So long as Govt is talking peace, it means we are getting ready to ram pakistani. But if the govt starts to talk war, be worried as it would mean govt isn't serious about it.
     
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    Prasun K. Sengupta has added his bit :

    Gloves Are Finally Off Against Those Irreconcilable, Compulsively Sulking Negativists!

    Since last year, the Indian Army has been monitoring the following launch-pads used by the Pakistan Army to infiltrate its ‘Sarkari Jihadi’ detachments into Jammu & Kashmir: from Bhimber Gali towards Shopian and Anantnag; from Lipa towards Baramula; from Jura towards Sopore; from Athmuqam towards Kupwara; from Dudhnial, Tejian, Shardi, Rattapani and Kel towards Machhal; and from Saonar and Sardari towards Kupwara and Sopore.

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    Finally, eight launch-pads spread over a linear 250km frontage and located at Bhimber Gali, Hot Springs, Lipa, Kel and Rattapani were chosen for targetted, surgical destruction lasting 7 hours (inclusive of cross ingress/egress) by the Indian Army’s 4 SF (Para) and 9 vSF (Para) Battalions.

    http://trishul-trident.blogspot.in/2016/09/gloves-are-finally-off-against-those.html

    From comments:

    Didn't the PA digest its total, unconditional surrender in Dhaka on December 16, 1971? If it could digest that, the latest incident should be a walk-in-the-park for them. Already the PA's cover-up has begun & only after IA HQ releases corroborative video-footage taken by the IA's MALE-UAVs of the surgical strikes will the PA feel the pinch but then again it will be extremely hard-pressed to retaliate since, officially as per Pakistan's official stance, the PA does not operate & deploy inside what it calls 'Azaad Kashmir' & the PA can therefore claim that all those killed inside PoK by the IA's SF (Para) raiders were all 'innocent Kashmiris'.

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    Why should there be close ai8r cover for such special operations during nighttime? Helicopters are used only for CSAR & CASEVAC if reqd, not otherwise. This was just a depth of 500 metres & 2.5km across the LoC & not like OP Neptune's Spear deep inside hostile territory. All such authority comes from the Cabinet Committee on National Security.
     
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    @vstol jockey
    Supposing the ante gets increased and a situation crops up where finally a coup occurs and a new Prez Raheel Sharif comes online.. How do you suppose it will change our tactics/strategies..?

    I am asking bcz i believe Imran Khan will be used by PA/ISI combo to destabilize Nawaz gov and possibly marginalise it further.. The likes of Saeed and other terror group will support PA/ISI conspiracy stories and also support a change in government which allows them to operate more freely and get better support from state machinery..

    In a way if we forsee repeat of what has happened in last 11-12 days then there will be more inbound local conflicts and our continuous ingress inching more and more deeper inside POK and ultimately a situation where for every attack, there will be a retaliation day in and day out.. All will be a precursor to the real WAR which will emerge when finally this option also fails to see the desired results owing to state machinery behind such terror organisations..

    So what you forsee? A coup with umbrella patronage of all terror organisation? or marginalization of PA/ISI via US folks and Indian ops and terror machinery being reined in..? And what do you suppose China will react to all this inside Pakistan.. Especially since CPEC is a stone throw away from India and already its periphery to hot zones...


    @randomradio @Gessler @surya kiran @all others Can join in and give a perspective also...
     
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  7. vstol jockey

    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    Raheel is supposed to retire in Nov. he wud like to avenge this strike by India and will not retire with a black eye and blot on his career. His brother was also killed in 1971 war and now he has been shown his place. So I do expect a retaliation from PA which might be followed by a coup or overthrow of Nawaz thru ISI manipulation.
    India is prepared to knock out PA completely in any war and shud PA retaliate, This will be the last ever time PA will do anything bcoz after that there will be no Pakistan and no Pak Army.
     
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    If Pak Army is responsible, they will continue their propaganda of no strikes happened and let the situation blow over. If it's left to individuals like Raheel, they will do something counterproductive.
     
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    BENGALURU: In what's being described as the first major use of the Cartosat family of satellites, the last one (2c) launched in June this year, sources in Isro said that the armed forces were aided by high-resolution images for the surgical strikes+conducted across the line of control+ (LoC) in the small hours of Thursday.

    A source in Isro said: "We've been providing images to the armed forces, the army in particular. While I cannot comment if any specific image was sent on a particular day in the previous week, I can say that Cartosat images are meant for this purpose and the army has used this."

    Both Isro and the Ministry of Defence (MoD) have largely remained tight-lipped about the uses of the Cartosat family of satellites—which experts call India's 'eye in the sky'—built for dual use.

    The Cartosat-2C in particular added more teeth to India's military surveillance and reconnaissance capabilities, and has been providing high resolution images of 0.65 metres, an improvement over the 0.8m resolution of the earlier missions.

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    Area of Interest Images

    "Cartosat also provided Area of Interest (AOI) based images for the armed forces," the source said. Another explained that based on requests, one or more scenes/images covering the AOI as specified is provided in as a single polygon (all the areas in one circle) in the form of a shapefile (non-topological geometry and attribute information for the spatial features).

    According to the National Remote Sensing Centre (NRSC) in Hyderabad, AOI products are of two types—standard and precision-based ortho (where images taken from space are corrected to have an uniform scale—both of which are useful for the armed forces. Ortho rectified products are corrected for terrain distortions and camera tilt effects.




    While the first Cartosat was launched in 2005, Cartosat-2A launched in 2007 was the first dual-use satellite with capabilities of monitoring missile launches in India's neighbourhood.


    And, the Cartosat-2C is the best in the class that India boasts of although countries like the US and Israel boast of better ones. This satellite can not only click pictures of areas of interest, but also record videos of sensitive targets from space, compress it, and relay it back to earth.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...osat-images-for-Army/articleshow/54596113.cms

     
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  10. PARIKRAMA

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    Hussain haqqani said live in NDTV yesterday night debate
    1. Establishment keeps ambiguity to suit their storyline in every case scenario
    2. Washington believes India took surgical strikes and that's very important..
    3. Since China did not criticise India's aggression, Susan rice talks and there seems to be a tacit understanding of world power and there is no way to deny what India said about surgical strikes.
    4. Two tier response by Pakistan Establishment
      1. Rhetoric to put together domestic folks and their opinions towards a common issue India
      2. Open channel with foreign powers to de escalate the problem with India and make the actual process work.
    5. Also India needs to have the plan to take it 4-5 steps further in order to foresee a total peace situation with India. So it's a challenge in terms of matching the things gng forward.
    Mushraff statement before 09/11 tht Kashmir dispute solved will not change the fact that Pakistan will continue to inflict low intensity warfare's as India is a hegemonic power. This was when Musharaff was a General. This was pointed by our former ambassador parthasarthy and haqqani admitted that saying it's correct so solving just Kashmir dispute won't bring peace between the two countries.

    Pakistan has to change the desire of comparison with India and always asking for a parity position and India had to help them by somewhere accommodating them to come out of this complex. Use of Terrorism by Pakistan can't help them supercede or make the country equal to India in any manner nor pull India down to competitive levels. So the present time is not at all conducive to seek out any good meaningful steps to look for peaceful ways to resolve all issues...

    It's in NDTV debate with barkha dutt

    Now pls check what pointers are being said .. clearly if you see, you can understand some pointers whats the big picture

    @vstol jockey
    It would be good if you define a bit of the big picture for all to understand. Haqqani words are weighed in gold in US establishment. His entire wordings point to the grand plan..
     
  11. vstol jockey

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    In my opinion, Pak Army has realised that it can't fight a direct war with India due to the overwhelming advantage which India has. Gone are the days of 1965 and 1971 when they were flush with latest weapons from USA while we were still recovering from the 1962 war defeat. Chamb-Jaurian and Chicken's Neck were our weak points which have now been turned into offensive launch pads. It is not possible for PA to try anyother trick elsewhere on International border. They do have some areas along LOC where they are holding higher ground. Those areas will remain source of trouble for IA. The deficiency of ammo for tanks and arty guns has been overcome by India and with each passing day, India will continue to get stronger militarily and PA will have to rely more on its Nukes for its territorial integrity.
    One of the main reasons of Indo-Pak hostility is the religion. Kashmir is not the problem. Pak muslims think that they are a superior race and all hindus must either convert to islam or become their slaves. They are basically those hindu converts/losers of history who are certified cowards due to their religion. They suffer from inferiority complex and that is their motivation to create trouble for India. They know that whatever they may try, they have completely lost the battle and race to become superior to India in any and every field. So all they want now is to have cheap fun by killing innocent people using these jihadis.
    IA and present govt has taken a leaf out of Sam Manekshaw's game. Once he was ready for war, he started similar attacks in East Pakistan which lured PA into battle. Result of that misadventure was BanglaDesh.
    Now once again IA is ready for battle and it is my estimate that if PA does not respond with a ground offensive soon, IA will do another such raid and may be more. Aim now is to force PA to launch attack so that we can finish off Pakistan by dismembering it. It took us 15 days to create Bangladesh, It will take us less than 10 days to create four separate nations out of Pakistan.
     
  12. TickTickIndian

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    I don't even care if they are going to actually do it, I'm going to frame this post and hang it in my office :)
     
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    You are letting out the secrets, Chinese are reading and will get tipped.
    And what do you think will be Russia, China and USA's roles??
     
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    Yes and I was commending that.
     
  15. vstol jockey

    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    They will do just nothing and let Pakistan be finished. China will get thee more nations to export to. Russia and US will just sit and make appeals to India & Pak to settle for peace talks.
     

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