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  1. AKIIN

    AKIIN 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    :firing::tank::artillery::victory::BVICTORY:
     
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    Anish Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    In a fresh bid to break the Bofors jinx, Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar on Saturday cleared proposal to acquire 814 artillery guns for Rs 15,750 crore while deferring decision on joint bid by Tata Sons and Airbus to replace IAF's Avro transport fleet and also procurement of 106 Swiss Pilatus basic trainer aircraft.

    The artillery guns would be procured as per the "Buy and Make" procedure introduced last year under which 100 such guns would be bought off the shelf while 714 would be made in India. The Indian Army has not acquired artillery guns in the past three decades after the Bofors scam surfaced in 1986.

    Sources said at least six tenders have been issued so far but were cancelled due to a number of reasons including blacklisting and single vendor scenario. The plans to acquire such guns were first mooted under Army's Field Artillery Rationalisation Plan (FARP) formulated in 1999.

    The decisions were taken after Parrikar chaired his maiden meeting of the Defence Acquisition Council (DAC) here this morning. Defence Ministry sources said the DAC has cleared the long pending proposal to acquire 814 mounted guns of 155mm/52 calibre.

    Sources said a fresh Request for Proposal (RFP) would be issued for the procurement which will be open to public as well as private companies. The Indian private companies that are likely to make a bid for this project include L&T, TATA and Bharat Forge.

    "The Indian company, when selected, will be the lead partner now. They can either show their ability to make the product completely here or tie-up with a foreign firm and build the guns here," a source said.

    Talking about the multi-crore joint bid by Tata Sons and European firm Airbus to manufacture 56 transport aircraft to replace the Avro fleet of the Indian Air Force (IAF), sources said the DAC has sought additional information. A similar decision was also taken on the proposal to acquire an additional 106 Swiss Pilatus basic trainer aircraft for the IAF at an estimated cost of about Rs 8,200 crore.

    The DAC also approved the revised payment schedule of Rs 7,160 crore for the IAF's Integrated Air Command and Control System which aims to integrate all ground and air censors.

    The IAF currently has five sector headquarters (nodes) of communication and the plan is to have five four more besides 10 sub-nodes and up-gradation of the entire system.

    Parrikar, who comes with an IIT background and has himself being an entrepreneur, stressed that the procurement policy should be fast and transparent.

    According to the Ministry sources, Parrikar said that the DAC could be held for more than a month and with lesser agenda. As of now, the Ministry is aiming to hold DAC at least once a month.

    During the discussion on Saturday, the issue of "Make In India" initiative of Prime Minister Narendra Modi also came up. Sources said there would be more discussion on the matter and the effort is to make the entire process more attractive to foreign investors.

    The DAC, set up in 2001 as part of the post-Kargil reforms in defence sector, approves the long-term integrated perspective plan for the forces, accords acceptance of necessity (AON) to begin acquisition proposals, and has to grant its approval to all major deals through all their important phases.

    It also has the power to approve any deviations in an acquisition, and recommends all big purchases for approval of the Cabinet committee on security.

    Manohar Parrikar clears proposal to acquire 814 artillery guns for Rs 15,750 crore for Indian Army | Latest News & Updates at Daily News & Analysis

    Privatisation is on full track. Leave the D-PSU's DRDO in this case to rot.
     
  3. venureddy

    venureddy Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    finally after 3 decades.
     
  4. sam2012

    sam2012 Captain FULL MEMBER

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    Good but who is going to win the race tatas or mahindra or punj llyod or L&T
    When L1 will be decided
     
  5. Paliwal Warrior

    Paliwal Warrior Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    after 2-3 years L1 will be decided

    int he interim Parikkar should have cleared more dhanush guns and / or arjun catapult systems
     
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    Paliwal Warrior Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    also i think kalyanis will aslo be in the race - they have the gun - only need to mount it on the trucks

    aslo this is not as easy as it seems as

    the systems developed by TATA, Kalyanis, Mahindras have not been tested at the vendor end as they did not get testing clearances

    so there are chances that they will face issues while testing
     
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    kiduva21 Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    is tie ups allowed?
    i like Kamaz , a Kamaz - kalayani will be a tough competitor...
     
  8. Paliwal Warrior

    Paliwal Warrior Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    yes all allowed
    as long as it is mfg in india

    as for Kamaz
    i think kalyanis will prefer to go it alone they are already investing in own products without any returns in sight
     
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    Gessler BANNED BANNED

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    Kalyani doesn't make any good trucks. So a tie-up is necessary.

    However tying up with a foreign company like Kamaz is not needed - Indian companies make good trucks themselves and even
    all the foreign self-propelled guns will be mounted on Indian trucks.

    For towed guns though, Kalyani can go alone because of their good guns - made by absorbing the Austrian/South African GHN.45 design.
     
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    Hope it doesn't become like MMRCA affair since
     
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    Some of the options which can be chosen-

    1) Nexter Systems teamed with Larsen & Toubro (offering the Caesar),

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    2)BAE Systems teamed with Mahindra Defence offering the FH-77BW L52 Archer,

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    3)Serbia’s Yugoimport SDPR teamed with Punj Lloyd offering the Nora-B52K1,


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    4)Krauss Maffei-Wegmann teamed with Ashok Leyland offering the 22.5-tonne AGM (on a 6 x 6 truck),


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    5)DENEL Land Systems teamed with TATA Power SED offering a customised version of the T-5-52 Mk2000 Condor

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    Thanks to Daedalus

    Let the predictions begin :cheesy:
     
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    Archer is little expensive but surely the best and the beast !!
     
  13. Anish

    Anish Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Archer would be the best. Fully automatic and only crew of 3. But i feel Caesar or Condor have better chance at L1.

    Ashok Leyland is offering a weak option and the Serbian company will likely fall flat in delhi circles.
     
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    Archer is the best option but it is indeed a littlebit pricyyy.
     
  15. AKIIN

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    Hand-in-Hand: India-China military exercise ends on friendly note
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    PUNE: The joint military exercise of India and China concluded on Tuesday with the defence establishments of both countries agreeing to continue such friendship efforts in future.

    "The two countries will scale up attempts of bringing both armies on same platform; specially to fight terrorism at the global level," read a joint statement issued at the concluding ceremony of the Counter Insurgency (CI) and Counter Terrorism (CT) joint exercises named "Hand-in-Hand."

    The special training capsule of 12 days was held at the College of Military Engineering (CME) and Aundh Military Station.

    "The military exercise was a good step. We have learnt new techniques. We also got a platform to share our experiences," said Lt General Zhou Xiaozhou, Chief of Staff, Chengdu Military Command, People's Liberation Army of China.

    "A frank interaction, such as this exercise, will help in improving relations between both army organisations. We will increase such joint events," he said.

    Lt General K Surendranath, chief of staff of Southern Command, said that new ideas and techniques were learnt during the exercise. "Both armies had good interactions. This will lead to better co-operation and regular joint exercises. More senior level officers from both the sides will join the next sessions," he said.

    Xiaozhou and Surendranath said that working together has proved beneficial for the army personnel of both countries. The joining of hands between India and China will help at the global level; not only for peace, but also for prosperity, read the statement.

    On the last day of the session, a joint tactical exercise was conducted where a cordon and search operation was carried out by troops.

    The joint teams of Indian and Chinese army men fought dummy terrorists using modern weaponry, helicopters and water boats.

    Speaking to reporters on the successful conclusion of the programme, Indian army officials said that Pune is likely to get an important role for more such activities in future.

    "Importance of Pune as a defence hub is known. The presence of various training institutes in and around the city will create conducive atmosphere for joint military training. The exercises at CMC have shown that we are capable of hosting CI and CT training. After Belgaum and Bhatinda, Pune can be an option," said an army official.
     

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