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Indian Army’s light utility helicopter tender could be scrapped

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  1. layman

    layman Aurignacian STAR MEMBER

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    There are indications that the 197 light-utility helicopters (LUH) procurement deal may be scrapped, leaving the army without an option to replace its ageing fleet of Cheetah and Chetak choppers. Cancellation of the deal seems imminent,†a senior defence ministry official told dna.

    Cheetah and Chetak choppers are the lifeline to troops deployed in high-altitude posts in North Kashmir, Siachen, Ladakh and the Northeast. But the Cheetahs and Chetaks have aged, waiting to replaced.

    Everyone thought that the LUH would be the replacement. But the buzz is the defence ministry might scrap the deal. More so, after the CBI registered a case against a brigadier and another officer on Saturday for allegedly attempting to favour one of the companies wanting to clinch the deal. Cheetah and Chetak choppers are “death trapsâ€. As many as 12 pilots have died in Cheetah crashes in the last five years.

    If army aviation sources are to be believed, these vintage helicopters, which were purchased from France and inducted into the Indian army in 1971, have lived beyond their threshold by more than 12 to 15 years.

    “Our high-altitude operations are suffering as pilots often refused to fly Cheetah or Chetak helicopters. Surveillance and reconnaissance in high-altitude areas like the China border are also taking a major hit,†a top officer of the army aviation corps told dna.

    According to defence ministry sources, the procurement process is heading for trouble once again after the acquisition of 197 helicopters worth Rs3,000 crore was cancelled in December 2007 after having been finalised. In 2008, the government issued fresh tenders in this regard.

    “If the government cancels the deal once again, it is going to be a major setback for the preparedness of the army, which is making all efforts to match China’s capabilities on the eastern front,†a senior army official said.

    The army has been raising the issue of replacing obsolete machines since 2003. In 2012, army headquarters wrote a letter to defence minister AK Antony’s office in which it highlighted that obsolescence-related issues such as component failures, low reliability, accidents and increased structural failures were dogging the fleet. The army claimed that Cheetah and Chetak helicopters had virtually become “death trapsâ€.

    The letter also argued in favour of replacement and against upgradation. “The Cheetah/Chetak helicopters are no longer manufactured by the OEM (original equipment manufacturer) and no plans are there to upgrade. Therefore, the only way forward is to replace this ageing fleet,†the letter read.

    In March 2007, defence minister AK Antony told Parliament that the ageing Cheetah fleet would be replaced. There are about 250 Cheetahs and Chetak helicopters in service in the army aviation corps. The airframe life of the light-utility helicopter is about 4,500 hours, but most Cheetahs with the army have logged over 6,000 flying hours. The engine life of the chopper is 1,750 hours and most have gone past that too.

    Accidents involving Cheetah/Chetak
    May 2012: An army Major was killed in a Cheetah crash in Siachin
    February 2011: Two army Majors died in a Cheetah crashed near Nagpur
    October 2011: Cheetah helicopters entered Pakistan air space due to lack of updated GPS
    November 2010: Two air force officers had a narrow escape after their Cheetah crashed in Siachen
    August 2010: Three soldiers died when their Cheetah hit a hill slope in Viswema village, 30km from Kohima

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    jonas Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    Whilst the powers that be are trying their utmost to stamp out corruption in defence procurement,they are at the same time seriously putting in jeopardy the capabilities of the armed forces. Not to say at the same time putting lives in danger,which then affects the moral of the forces.

    It now seems that at the slightest whiff of any wrongdoing,the knee jerk reaction is to shout 'cancel this project'. Instead of carrying on with it whilst at the same time rooting out the wrongdoers (if indeed there are any) and punishing them. It seems to me to be a case of 'cutting off your nose,to spite your face'

    The number of projects being or threatened to be cancelled seems to be ever growing,every one of which causes even more delays to the modernisation and efficiency of the Indian armed forces.
     
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    Spot on! Exactly the case with AW101 deal and a number of others.
     
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    he-man Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    can't dhruv be used for high altitudes???
    make a modified version for high altitudes if we need them.why go for an all together diff platform?
     
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    it will boost indian development - only if HAL can deliver on time
     
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    he-man Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    thats nearly impossible
     
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    Gessler BANNED BANNED

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    That's exactly what is the HAL LUH designed for.

    It complies with the light utility chopper requirement, has an improved engine as per requirement, and can go to
    higher altitudes than either Fennec or Ka-226T.
     
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    he-man Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    whats its status anyway??
     
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    Gessler BANNED BANNED

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    Fabrication of first prototype is nearing completion.
     
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    Manmohan Yadav Brigadier STAR MEMBER

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    yes, at altitudes as high as 5.5 Kms
     
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    LUH's service ceiling is upto 6.5km.
     
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    that;s cause its LUH
     
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    Gessler BANNED BANNED

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    LCH service ceiling is also the same:troll:.

    But it can't carry any passengers.
     
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    Manmohan Yadav Brigadier STAR MEMBER

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    to fayda kya
     
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