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Indian Missile Transporter Erectors and Launchers (TEL)

Discussion in 'Indian Military Doctrine' started by PeegooFeng41, Feb 9, 2017.

  1. PeegooFeng41

    PeegooFeng41 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    Looking at current TELs of India based of Tatra 16x16 or 8x8, it seems they can use some modernization as compared to Russian and Chinese TELs :

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    Russian and Chinese TELs

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    Notice how all the wheels of TEL are actuated to maneuver and how the length of the entire system is minimized, also the centre of mass is lowered by keeping a bit of low profile and wider body.

    Why isn't Indian defence establishment seeking this? It won't be hard for Russia to sell this transporter to India or even given entire technology. China is doing that for Pakistan and NaKo btw.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-korea-north-china-idUSBRE83N05S20120424

    Specifically I will like to see something like this
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MZKT#79221
    in Indian forces.

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  2. kaku

    kaku Major REGISTERED

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    RDay are show piece not actual TELs.

    Also unlike Russia and China, because of vast hinderland, these TELs require to travel in remote areas.

    This is not the case with India, the only option for India is like of UK and France, SSBN.
     
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    AbRaj Captain FULL MEMBER

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    TELs have definite advantage of shoot and scoot. They are more agile and more mobile and can be easily hidden in Peace time. In some strategic locations and can be brought in open at the time of use.
    The reason you said is not very good excuse for R&D agencies.
    Here is Israel's
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    AbRaj Captain FULL MEMBER

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    US Forces
     
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    GSLV Mk III Captain FULL MEMBER

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    You mean the TELs are rail based ?
     
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    Patriot TEL
     
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    BTW now a days TELs for strategic nuclear missiles are not very common except for Russia ,China and some rogue countries.
     
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    Shoot and scoot, after nuclear weapon launch?
     
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    kaku Major REGISTERED

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    Yes it is.

    Read the book Managing India's Nuclear Forces.


    This is not nuclear weapon.
     
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    kaku Major REGISTERED

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    All Agni series is rail based, except A5.
     
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    GSLV Mk III Captain FULL MEMBER

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    we have TELs for tactical missiles, what's the point ?
     
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    GSLV Mk III Captain FULL MEMBER

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    Interesting, looking at the US TEL ground clearance, it seems that they do not expect these hulks to off-road.

    Coming to rail based TELs, it makes a kind of sense. Railways are faster than roadways and you can actually run away from a nuke launched from China or Pakistan. 7 minutes are enough to get 4-5 kilometers away from where you are if you were targetted.

    DRDO has few rail transported TELs :

    http://www.drdo.gov.in/drdo/pub/techfocus/aug04/missile16.htm



    Mind you this is from 2004. Things might have changed since then.

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    http://www.drdo.gov.in/drdo/pub/techfocus/aug04/welcometfaug04.htm

    Some interesting pictures of 'Pontoons' for K-15

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    And our beloved canister

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    This is a dated treasure trove of information on launchers, straight from horse mouth

    http://www.drdo.gov.in/drdo/pub/techfocus/aug04/welcometfaug04.htm
     

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    This is perfectly okay, given that the length and all are same as that of an average IR coach.

    Russian RT-23

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    @kaku my apologies for being vague .
    Nuclear TELs are indeed not very common these days.
    But they can provide greater chances to evade the ABM shield of enemy.
    But for that one must have TEL which is both rail as well as road transportable
     

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