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Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

Discussion in 'Indian Military Doctrine' started by Agent_47, Dec 8, 2016.

  1. Zer0reZ

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    credit to @Agent_47 and Ravi sharma on PDF

     
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    Sancho Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    Exactly, that's what I said as well and why every similar class of weapon, that has folding fins for the quad rack.
     
  4. Sancho

    Sancho Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    http://www.dailypioneer.com/columnists/oped/sky-is-the-limit-for-cruise-missile.html


    Another good example why joint developments can provide higher techs and capabilities, while bridging the gap till really indigenous alternatives can be available. But we need more rationality and less pride in these developments.
     
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    Manik turbofan to be tested on our yet to succeed Nirbhay?No news from official sources yet, but Good god.


     

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    VSHORAD contest: It’s complicated
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    RBS70 NG live firing, September 2011 at Karlskoga, Sweden | Photo: Saab

    The Indian tender process for Very Short Range Air Defence Systems (VSHORAD) is at a curious juncture following final user trials held in India in May this year.

    The Indian armed forces have been running a tri-service tender competition for VSHORAD systems since 2010 for 5185 missiles and 800 launchers.

    There were three contenders for the order: the Russian Igla-S system, the Saab RBS70NG and the MBDA Mistral. Although the Indian Army already operates a version of the Igla, the Russian system failed the tracking element of the user trials in May. In fact, the Russian system has never been able to successfully prosecute a target under the summer sun in an Indian desert. The Saab system, which was perceived to be overweight in terms of one of its components, managed to display a compliant weight reduction and track the target.

    The Saab system was to be judged on weight alone, since it had already cleared all other trials. After the system was dismantled to prove weight, which was compliant with the requirements, the competition asked that it be tested for firing and tracking. The Swedish test team powered up the system and tracked the target over 40 times. In one instance, they were then asked to fire and the RBS70 missile tracked the aerial target and flew past it.

    This has been curiously interpreted by some to imply a failure of the Swedish system, even though firing was not meant to be a measure in the May trials. Tracking and kill requirements were tested earlier in the process and the RBS70 was found compliant with the RFP.

    The RBS70 is a laser-based system and, as such, its disassembled, man-portable components are structured differently from other systems. While the RFP requires a weight distribution of 25 kg for the missile, 25 kg for the firing station and 20 kg for the sight with power-pack, the weight distribution of the Swedish system is different. The Swedes were asked to prove the weight distribution of the RBS70 because its sight included the laser and weighs 25 kg while the firing station comprises the stand with the power-pack and weighs 20 kg.

    Saab disassembled the components at the May trials and proved its compliance with the weight requirements of the RFP.

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    Mistral MANPADS being operated by French Forces in Guyana | Photo: DICOD/JJ. Chatard

    And while the selective interpretation in this case remains a matter of discussion, the competing MBDA Mistral has failed compliance on one separate measure, completely. The system has fallen short of requirements measured by the EMI EMC test. The EMI EMC (Electro Magnetic Interference Electro Magnetic Compatibility) test involves the placement of the system in a chamber to measure the amount of radiation emitted by the system and is also subjected to radiation to measure its compatibility with emissions from simulated surrounding systems. This is especially important in restricted environments such as warships, where many radiation-emitting systems are in close proximity to each other and cannot be allowed to interfere or affect the performance of a proximate system in any way.

    The MBDA Mistral systems deployed in European military forces rely on a variety of radars, including the Saab Giraffe AMB 3D radar. MBDA has opted for a pairing with the Israeli Elta radar in its Indian VSHORAD pitch. There is some speculation that this could have contributed to the failure of the system in the EMI EMC test. The French have had integration issues with the Mistral and the radar, earlier in the trials.

    What is up in the air is whether the three services will sign off on the EMI EMC test failure and excuse the non-compliance of the MBDA Mistral.

    Interestingly, a defense ministry CNC (Contract Negotiation Committee) is currently negotiating separate orders for helicopter-mounted Mistral systems.

    The VSHORAD order was expected to be worth INR 27,000 crores, (USD 4.1 billion in today’s terms) when it was first conceived in 2010. It is included in the Indian armed forces list of high priority acquisition programs.


    https://www.stratpost.com/vshorad-contest-its-complicated/
     
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    Too may conjunctions here. Looks like PKS have a new friend.

    Nirbhay don't have seeker or liquid fuel ramjet. :facepalm:

    That's subjective, TERCOM is better for Nirbhay like missiles. Effective and low cost.

    True, but there is a difference though. Anti air missiles uses Ku band seekers while Brahmos uses X band. Totally different developments. (Astra, QRSAM vs Brahmos, possible nirbhay)

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    Total BS paragraph. What the hell babur has to do with Nirbhay ? How is it gona challenge one another ? Intercept mid air?

    Manik engine development started a decade ago. First test scheduled in a year. Saturn 36MT was always a stopgap. Why would we arm a subsonic missile with nuke ? I don't think russians are that stupid.

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    Indian Air Force, DRDO successfully test-fire guided 'Glide Bomb'
    Designated as the Smart Anti-Airfield Weapon (SAAW), the bomb released from the IAF aircraft was guided through precision navigation system.

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    NEW DELHI: Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) and the Indian Air Force (IAF) on Friday successfully tested an indigenously-built lightweight 'glide bomb' at the Integrated Test Range in Odisha's Chandipur.

    Designated as the Smart Anti-Airfield Weapon (SAAW), the bomb released from the IAF aircraft was guided through precision navigation system.

    According to an official statement, the 'glide bomb' reached the targets at greater than 70 km range, with high accuracies.

    As many as three test-fires were conducted with different release conditions and ranges.

    The bomb has been developed by the DRDO's Research Centre Imarat (RCI) in collaboration with DRDO's other laboratories and IAF.

    Following the success, Defence Minister Nirmala Sitharaman congratulated the IAF team and the DRDO scientists.

    Secretary Department of Defence R&D and Chairman DRDO, Dr. S Christopher confirmed that SAAW will be inducted soon into the Armed Forces.

    Director General Missiles and Strategic System DG (MSS) Dr. G Satheesh Reddy termed the SAAW as a major milestone in the indigenous capabilities to develop guided bombs.

    The SAAW is a long-range precision-guided anti-airfield weapon, designed to be capable of engaging ground targets with high precision out to a range of 100 km.


    http://zeenews.india.com/india/indi...ully-test-fire-guided-glide-bomb-2054078.html
     
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    DRDO successfully tests Smart Anti-Airfield Weapon, can target enemy airfields within 100 km range
    Designed and developed in the country, the 120-kg class smart anti-airfield weapon is used to destroy runways, bunkers, aircraft hangers and other reinforced structures.

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    The Defence and Research Development Organisation (DRDO) has successfully tested an indigenous Smart Anti-Airfield Weapon (SAAW) from an Indian Air Force (IAF) aircraft, an official release said today.




    HERE IS ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT SAAW :
    1. Designed and developed in the country, the 120-kg class smart weapon is used to destroy runways, bunkers, aircraft hangers and other reinforced structures.
    2. Its long standoff range of 100 km will allow the IAF to hit adversary airfields with high precision from a safe distance.
    3. "The captive and release trials were tracked by radar and telemetry ground stations at the Integrated Test Range at Chandipur in Odisha during the entire duration of the flight. The performance of all systems was satisfactory with all mission objectives achieved," said the release.
    4. The lightweight high-precision guided bomb is one of the world class weapons systems.
    5. The government sanctioned the Rs 56.58 crore SAAW project in September 2013.
    6. DRDO Chairman Dr S. Christopher congratulated the DRDO and the IAF teams for the successful mission.
    7. In May, the DRDO conducted the first test on the weapon system from the IAF Jaguar DARIN-II aircraft in Bengaluru in Karnataka.
    8. The test was carried out by IAF's Aircraft and Systems Testing Establishment (ASTE).
    9. The trial mode mounting of the SAAW on Jaguar DARIN-II aircraft is manufactured by Hindustan Aeronautics Limited.
    http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/...rce-aircraft-successfully-tests/1/842311.html
     
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    India’s indigenous subsonic cruise missile Nirbhay set for fifth trial
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      India’s indigenous subsonic cruise missile, Nirbhay, which failed its last test in December 2016, is ready for its fifth trial, DRDO chief S. Christopher said on Sunday.

      “We are planning to have one probable trial (of the missile) next week,” Mr. Christopher said on the sidelines of a three-day international conference Fipsphysiocon-2017, organised by the Defence Institute of Physiology and Allied Sciences.

      The DRDO chief said the glitches that led to failure in its fourth trial in December 2016 have been removed. Nirbhay’s December 2016 trial was aborted half-way as the missile changed its targeted course. It had to be destroyed within minutes of taking off amid a threat that the missile could hit land.

      The 750-1,000 km-long range missile’s first test on March 12, 2013 failed as it fell after 20 minutes of flight. The second on October 17, 2014 was, however, successful. The third test on October 16, 2015 saw the missile nose-dive after covering 128 km in the Bay of Bengal.

      The cruise missile is expected to supplement the Indo-Russian joint venture supersonic cruise missile BrahMos, which can carry warheads up to 290 km. The two-stage missile has a length of six metres, a diameter of 0.52 m, a wing span of 2.7 m, and a launch weight of about 1,500 kg.

      With the capability to strike deep into enemy territory, Nirbhay has been designed and developed by the DRDO at it’s aeronautics R&D laboratory ADE (Aeronautical Development Establishment) based in Bengaluru.

      The cruise missile is powered by a solid rocket motor booster developed by the Advanced Systems Laboratory (ASL) and is guided by a highly advanced inertial navigation system indigenously developed by Research Centre Imarat (RCI).
    Source:http://www.thehindu.com/news/nation...rbhay-set-for-fifth-trial/article19987030.ece
     
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    first confirmation coming from an official channel
     
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    Now after some days, news will be come that it was a fail test :p
     

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