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Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

Discussion in 'Indian Military Doctrine' started by Agent_47, Dec 8, 2016.

  1. Blackjay

    Blackjay Developers Guild Developers -IT and R&D

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    Nope ,emp blast will not occur till the aircraft is well and truly out of range.with 100 km range from launch platform nothing to worry about for aircraft.Also targets are on ground while aircrafts will be at an altitude,so even more distance between the two.
     
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  2. HariPrasad

    HariPrasad Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Mr sengupta's articles are most impressive and full of information. Only saurav Jha's geek at large can come close. I remembered his article on Tejas Mk2 in which he had provided a load of information.
     
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  3. Ankit Kumar 001

    Ankit Kumar 001 Major Technical Analyst

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    In Guided Bombs/Munitions there is lot of clutter.

    Things should be streamlined and cleared.

    Build up on 50/100/125/250/500/750/1000Kg Indeginious bombs and develop Laser guidance , IRNSS guidance , TV Guidance, IF guidance and Radio Guidance kits to add these on the general purpose bombs as and when time calls for.
     
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  4. randomradio

    randomradio Colonel Technical Analyst

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    I don't believe there is any truth in what Gupta said. SAAW is just a rocket powered PGM. It may come with multiple warheads though.
     
  5. Aqwoyk

    Aqwoyk Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Yep, sometimes he shoots off things from his rear...but many times he is right.
     
  6. Agent_47

    Agent_47 Admin - Blog IDF NewBie

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    BHUBANESWAR: India’s own cruise missile project Nirbhay has got an extension of 18 months amid speculations over the weapon system’s operational capabilities. Launched in 2004, the projected date of completion for the prestigious project was December 31 last.

    At a recent review meeting, Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar gave green signal for the extension. Ministry of Defence sources said the Nirbhay team has been asked to deliver their best by June, 2018.

    Under developmental trial since 2013, the missile is yet to perform as per the expectations. Of four tests in as many years, the indigenously developed weapon had failed three times though it could cover the intended range once in 2014.

    Meanwhile, an independent technical committee has been formed to identify faults in the system that led to failure of the missile during its fourth trial on December 21.

    The probe committee led by founder director of ISRO Inertial Systems Unit Dr Nagarajan Vedachalam will not only ascertain the faults but also recommend possible measures to make the system robust.

    Like in its maiden trial and third test, the missile had veered off the trajectory minutes after take off during the last launch and the mission had to be aborted mid-air.

    An official associated with the project, however, informed that the blame game between two laboratories of Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) cost the project more than the faults in the system.

    While Aeronautical Development Establishment (ADE), which has designed the missile, has been blaming Research Centre Imarat (RCI) for supplying defective hardware, the latter points fingers at ADE-developed software for recurring failure of the missile.

    ‘’The probe committee will ascertain which is defective, the software or hardware. It may also inspect metallurgical deficiencies,’’ the sources said.

    Having a strike range of around 1,000 km, Nirbhay is first homegrown subsonic cruise missile project. According to DRDO, the missile can challenge weapons of its class.

    Nirbhay blasts off like a rocket and unlike a missile, it turns into a vehicle akin an aircraft. Flying at tree-top level, it can deceive enemy radars making it difficult to be detected. Unlike other ballistic missiles, this cruise missile has wings and distinct tail fins. After reaching near the target area, it can hover around, hitting at its will from any direction.

    http://www.newindianexpress.com/sta...-nirbhay-panel-to-identify-flaws-1557012.html
     
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  7. Schwifty

    Schwifty 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    ISRO is here to save the day.
     
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  8. GSLV Mk III

    GSLV Mk III Captain FULL MEMBER

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    To be fair, ISRO too had it's share of failures & they were rectified by implementing recommendations of independent failure analysis committees.
     
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    BHUBANESWAR: The Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) is all set to go for a fresh trial of the home-grown cruise missile Nirbhay from a defence base off Odisha coast on Tuesday.

    The indigenously developed surface-to-surface sub-sonic missile, which is compared with America’s Tomahawk missile, is likely to be test-fired from the launching complex-III of the Integrated Test Range (ITR) at Chandipur-on-sea.

    A few scientists involved with the project have, however, expressed concern as the missile is being pushed for trials despite shortcomings in it.

    "The snags in the flight control and navigation software have not been sorted out. Strangely, the authorities are pinning illogical hopes on its success. Our fingers are crossed," said a source. DRDO authorities could not be contacted for comment.


    Prior to the last year's trial, The New Indian Express had carried a story highlighting the shortcomings in the missile system. The missile performed exactly as it was apprehended and the mission was aborted after 700 seconds.

    The fuel tank used in the missile system had not cleared the Environmental Stress Screening (ESS) tests thus making it vulnerable during flight. Safety of the system, quality of subsystems and reliability of the build components were also compromised during the trial.

    Developed by Advanced Systems Laboratory (ASL) of DRDO, the missile is yet to perform as expected. It has undergone three tests in the last three years.

    While during the first test in 2013 the guidance component, known as gyro, in the navigation system of the missile had malfunctioned for which the missile veered off the path, during the second test in 2014 it could not manoeuvre at the desired low height.

    The cruise missile having a strike range of around 750 km to 1,000 km is expected to supplement the Indo-Russian joint venture supersonic cruise missile BrahMos, which can carry warheads up to 290 km.

    The two-stage Nirbhay missile has a length of six meters, the diameter of 0.52 m, wing span 2.7 m and a launch weight of about 1,500 kgs. Bengaluru-based Aeronautical Development Establishment (ADE) has designed the missile.

    http://www.newindianexpress.com/nat...y-to-be-tested-today-from-odisha-1551204.html

    Can Anyone explain to how can newindianexpress able to have sources that predicted that the test will fail??? is there some internal struggle or one joker didn't want the other to succeed simply sabotage the test??
     
  10. Ripcord322

    Ripcord322 Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    The Project was launched in 2004!
    Wow....

    Anyway... Lets hope they get it right eventually.... Because canceling the project isn't an option for us...


    BTW... The turbofan they use in the Nirbhay.... is Indian right....!?
    And does it have an active seeker of some sort..!?
     
  11. Agent_47

    Agent_47 Admin - Blog IDF NewBie

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    Launching doesn't mean actual money and full commitment. They freezed the requirements and started to work towards filling the technical deficiencies. (AMCA project is already sanctioned and 100 cr or so has spend towards designing already.)
    Date of project sanction is Dec 2010 for 102 cr and was scheduled to be completed by dec 2016 (A single Brahmos missile costs around 40cr or so.)
     
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  12. Sathya

    Sathya Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    I read initially all are Russian engines, later on Indian made will replace.
     
  13. Indx TechStyle

    Indx TechStyle Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Well, Nirbhay is first missile to be made in Bangalore.
    Bangalore Team may not be as experienced as Hyderabad Team is; in missile tech.
     
  14. Indx TechStyle

    Indx TechStyle Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Somebody can laugh on me but I say ISRO stands nowhere against DRDO if we study actual technical issues.:rolleyes:
    DRDO's projects are far more difficult.
     
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  15. zebra7

    zebra7 Captain FULL MEMBER

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    It will surely be a sucess. The turbofan used in Nirbhay is Russian.
     

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