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Discussion in 'Indian Military Doctrine' started by Agent_47, Dec 8, 2016.

  1. Blackjay

    Blackjay Developers Guild Developers -IT and R&D

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    India to scrap QR-SAM surface-to-air missile contract? Big setback for Make in India scheme in the offing
    By: Huma Siddiqui | New Delhi | Published: February 9, 2017 5:53 AM


    The ministry of defence (MoD) is planning to scrap a contract for buying surface-to-air missiles (QR-SAM) for the Indian Army to replace its Soviet-vintage OSA-AK (SA-8) and SA-6 units. Such a move is expected to come as a blow to the Make in India initiative as the chosen company was expected to make major parts of the system in India.

    The army had conducted field trials in 2014-15 of the missile systems from Rosoboronexport, the sole state agency for Russia’s exports/imports of defence-related products, Rafael Advanced Defense Systems of Israel and Swedish SAABHighly-placed sources told FE that “there was a difference of opinion over the compliance of the systems tested as there was a very minor difference and the Israeli Spyder QR-SAMs reportedly come out to as clear winner.”

    However, the matter was raised during the Defence Acquisition Council meeting in September 2016 headed by defence minister Manohar Parrikar. The choice laid down was either to open commercial bid for all three despite minor differences or go with a single vendor,”explained sources.

    It was decided in September 2016 to explore options for other vendors as well as re-look at the indigenous Akash missiles developed by the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO).

    The Indian Army had last year made it clear that it does not want the indigenous ‘Akash’ regiment apart from the two regiments ordered earlier for R14,180crore. Citing problems including infrastructural, requirement for 360-degree coverage and several vehicles for launchers, in deploying the Akash missiles against enemy air attacks in forward areas, the army was keen on buying globally.

    “The Indian Air Force does not have similar problems as the Army and is set to induct four Israel developed SPYDER units, starting soon. It is also inducting 15 squadrons of Akash missile systems for R10,900 crore — meant to guard its airbases,” added sources.

    Now, with the MoD planning to scrap the plan of procurement, the vendors are very upset and now questioning the credibility of the RfPs that are being issued by the MoD and then later being scrapped. A senior executive of one of the companies which had participated in the trials told FE, “A lot of money is invested in the whole process including responding to going into trials which are carried out in extreme hot/cold weather. The government, after going through all these procedures, suddenly scraps the RfP causing inconvenience as well as financial losses.”

    The army has sent a request for information (RFI) for a new short range surface-to-air missile system to replace its Soviet-vintage OSA-AK (SA-8) and SA-6 units in 2010, and had sought information for a 20-km range missile system with active and passive guidance, with the capacity to engage targets moving up to 500 metres/second, and including hovering targets.

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    http://www.financialexpress.com/eco...or-make-in-india-scheme-in-the-offing/543442/
     
  2. GSLV Mk III

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    Can DRDO's upcoming SR SAM be used in the same role ?
     
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  3. Aqwoyk

    Aqwoyk Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    It must be
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    Any update on this?
     
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  4. Ankit Kumar 001

    Ankit Kumar 001 Major Technical Analyst

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    Good . Very good.

    We have a QR-SAM project sanctioned and we should get only that.

    I hope a IR Guided MANPAD program is also started and we scrap the VSHORAD program.
     
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  5. Aqwoyk

    Aqwoyk Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    It will take years to iduct till the SpyDer must be procured.
     
  6. Aqwoyk

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    How many missiles are in one unit of SpyDer system?
     
  7. SR-91

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    With Modi heading to Israel and Russia soon, I'm expecting some hard core technologies coming our way.
     
  8. Aqwoyk

    Aqwoyk Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    http://pib.nic.in/newsite/PrintRelease.aspx?relid=158007

    S.No


    Project

    Date of Sanction

    Sanctioned Cost

    1

    National Open Air Range

    Aug 2014

    468.00

    2


    Quick Reaction Surface To Air Missile (QR-SAM)


    Jul 2014


    476.43


    3

    AIP system on P-75 submarines and development of deliverable lox system

    Jun 2014

    270.00

    4

    Submarine Periscope

    Mar 2014

    163.77

    5

    Technology Development of Engine Fuel Control System (EFCS)

    Oct 2014

    177.72



    6

    Collaborative Development of Low Vulnerable High Performance Propellant with Low Temperature Coefficient and Improved Life of Ammunition

    Sep 2014

    267.02

    7

    Project Pralay

    Mar 2015

    332.88

    8

    Development of Multi-kilowatt Fibre Laser

    May 2015

    289.55

    9

    Lead-in Project for Design of GHATAK and Development of Critical advanced Technologies for GHATAK & AMCA

    May 2106

    231.00

    10

    AKASH-NG – New Generation

    Sep 2016

    470.00

    11

    Development of Supersonic Missile Assisted Release of Torpedo SMART

    Nov 2016

    340.00

    12

    Rudra M-II

    Mar 2016

    489.06

    13

    ANVESHA

    May 2016

    479.28


    QR Missile was sactioned 476 Cr Rs 3 years ago .

    Anyway isn't there any sticky thread dedicated to DRDO matters?

    @Levina @Robinhood Pandey
     
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  9. Levina

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    No, the qr-sam is for the movement with troops where the other is for area protection.
     
  11. vstol jockey

    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    Akaash NG is a canisterised SAM and it has been modified to move with the frontline IBGs. It has longer range and will be a better solution as it can stay well within the safety zone of our own forces and yet provide defence in depth to our IBGs.
     
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    Sir will it be ramjet propelled ?
     
  13. vstol jockey

    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    It is a modified version of the existing system.
     
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    Sir does it make any sense to have this bulky missile for just 25 km range over QR Missile ?
     
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    DRDO QRSAM
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