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Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

Discussion in 'Indian Military Doctrine' started by Agent_47, Dec 8, 2016.

  1. Ripcord322

    Ripcord322 Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Since HSTDV is just a TD...Could it be possible that the tech developed Under that Project gets used in the Pralay...
     
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    Aqwoyk Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Right but this is an independent thing as HSTDV is going to be mounted on top of a BM ........... being on pralay don't necessarily means Pralay is for HSTDV neither Pralay is itself HSTDV ..............
     
  3. Aqwoyk

    Aqwoyk Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    upload_2017-2-27_13-30-27.png
    Pralay with Jig



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    load carrying capacity of the jig ..................
     
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    Aqwoyk Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Gessler Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    Don't go by the names alone...in all likelihood we are dealing with multiple tech-demonstrators here.

    AFAIK, the Pralay that Prasun is talking about and the schematic of the jig appear to be of different systems. The name may have even been shared or maybe one of the systems has been re-named again and we're not aware of it yet.

    Only time will tell.
     
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  6. Agent_47

    Agent_47 Admin - Blog Staff Member MODERATOR

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    A better explanation would be, PKS is high. :drag:
     
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  7. Aqwoyk

    Aqwoyk Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Except for the BRAHMOS missile which is a joint venture, it seems that the DRDO is not focussed on the cruise missiles.


    On the contrary, cruise missiles are one of our major focus areas. There is another new programme which will have a supersonic end phase. it is a turbofan with the range of around 1,000 kilometres. in this new project, a booster will lift the missile up, and the turbofan will take the missile to the desired location within 1,000 km. in the final flight stage, we will ditch the turbofan, fly
    with another engine which will take the missile to the supersonic speed and hit the target.
    The DRDO hQ has cleared this project already. two labs — Aeronautical Development establishment (ADe) and Defence Research and Development Laboratory (DRDL) — are involved in this.

    http://www.drdo.gov.in/drdo/English/Public/dpi/articles/secretary-interview-27022017.pdf

    Source of Prasunji 's take on Pralay being ......................
     
  8. Gessler

    Gessler Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    About the different SAAWs...

    Spice 250-based SAAW -
    [​IMG]

    JDAM-type SAAW -
    [​IMG]

    ...it's warheads -
    [​IMG]

    About Pralay -

    https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3545138702780178046&postID=1915776287810348669
     
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  9. Ankit Kumar 001

    Ankit Kumar 001 Major Technical Analyst

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    New Delhi (Sputnik) — India has issued a global request for information (RFI) to procure vertical launch short range surface-to-air-missile (SAM) system for fitment onboard Indian Navy ships and would be utilized for Anti-Missile Defense and engaging other identified air targets by the Indian Navy. With this RFI, Indian Navy has started a keenly awaited process to replace the Barak 1 air defense system.
    In a 14-page paper, the Navy says, "The all-weather system should be able to be queued by data from Air Surveillance radar. Requirement for installation of dedicated Fire Control Radar/ Surveillance radar. Vendors must specify the feasibility of using existing radars like Fregat MAE, Fregat M2EM, AMDR2D, AMDR 3D, RAWL 08/ 02, MFSTAR, 3D SAR."

    The RFI said the missile system should be adequate to engage target with speed of up to Mach 3. Navy asked vendors to specify maximum speed with qualifying conditions, if any, eg. flight altitude, stages of flight, etc. Vendors will have to provide details of type of Guidance (Command Line of Sight, Data Link, Proportional Navigation, etc) and stabilization of the missile for roll, pitch and yaw. The paper does not reveal the range Navy requires.

    The Indian Navy sought details of the entire fire control system including targets that can be handled simultaneous and number of crew required for operating the system.

    The tender is likely to be issued in the third half of 2017. "Vendors need to indicate shortest tentative time schedule for supplying the said quantity of SR SAM systems," it says.
    Navy requires vertically launched system with 360° coverage to engage hostile targets. Last year, MBDA had showcased a static mock-up vertical launch SRSAM at India's Defense Expo in Goa. MBDA's 100-kg SRSAM is a Mach 3-class missile, with a range of 40 km. MBDA claims single shot kill probability of at least 70 per cent for a single missile fired and 85 per cent for a salvo shot involving two missiles. Sources said DRDO is also independently working on an indigenous SRSAM project.

    https://sputniknews.com/asia/201703021051164922-india-range-sam/
     
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  10. Ankit Kumar 001

    Ankit Kumar 001 Major Technical Analyst

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    @Agent_47 @PARIKRAMA

    I looked at IN Website but didn't found any such RFI. Have a look , if you all can find it, then share it here.
     
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    Ankit Kumar 001 Major Technical Analyst

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    Ankit Kumar 001 Major Technical Analyst

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    Here I am attaching the RFI
     

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    DRDO should come up with Astra 2 based SR-SAM with booster and vertical launch for 360 degree coverage. DRDO should use AESA and IRST dual seeker on this missile. I think this will save us forex and it will be indigenous product which can be cheaply produced and used by all the wings Navy, IAF and Army. It is high time we move to Indian products for at least smaller systems like these. Ammunition and small weapons should be developed and produced in India only.
     
  15. SR-91

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    Guys did u notice Article states, ""Indian Navy is keenly awaited process to replace Barak 1 Sam missiles"". WTF???.

    what is going on here? If this is true, there's a big issue either with the system or it's financially not feasible. Or, GOI found this controversial procurement of this system to be full of corruption under "AK (AAKthoo) Anthony"
     
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