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Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

Discussion in 'Indian Military Doctrine' started by Agent_47, Dec 8, 2016.

  1. Inactive

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    Barak 1 was during NDA-1. Nope, time for upgradation of capability, that is all. The system is good.
     
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    Right, 2nd batch of system was ordered merely 3 years ago.
     
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    The average shelf life of missiles is 10-15 years. So some 5-6 years down the line when 3 Bhramaputra class and 3 Delhi Class Destroyer go for a Mid Life Maintenance, they will obviously either need new B1, or any other new missiles.Same with our NGMV and NGCs, when they enter service after 5-6 Years , all will surely need a technology relevant at that period of time.

    Further it should be noted that Barak 1 is more of a CIWS, rather than a SAM.

    New ships will have to face more advanced threats, so they need better missiles.

    Note : Barak 1 now is past its prime.
     
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    Then why not just go for the next generation Barak missiles?
     
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    You mean Barak 8 ?

    Well B8 works in tandem with MFSTAR.

    And that's costly.

    You see the US NAVY doesn't install the Ageis on every ship it has.
     
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    This is for next batch of ships post 2020. Barak 1 is a good enough system and it will not be replaced for the foreseeable future.

    @Ankit Kumar 001
    Use original title
     
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    OK, while we are on this topic, do u know what will be the difference between barak8 n new missile defense deal just signed. I know The new system will be based on barak 8 but it also looks like it has shorter range.
     
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    All our Barak 2MR systems, now called Barak 8, have a range of 90-100km.
     
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    Barak 8


    IN
    Orders placed for 3 Kolkata Class, 4 Vizag, 2 aircraft carriers. [Would include 90km variant initially, then 150-180 km ER variant ] [Cost of 2009; around 650 million USD]
    Order for P17A still to be pIaced.

    IAF
    18 MR SAM units. Each MR-SAM unit, in turn, would consist of a command and control center, an acquisition radar, a guidance radar, and 3 launchers with 8 missiles each. MR-SAM’s total would therefore be 10 C2 centers, 18 acquisition radars, 18 guidance radars, and 54 launchers, armed with 432 ready-to-fire missiles. 2 Units together will form a squadron. [Cost of IAF deal ; 1.95 billion USD in 2009]

    IA
    Land Based Barak 8. 5 Regiments,each with 8 launchers, each launcher with 8 ready to fire units. [Cost ; 2.5 Billion USD]


    PS: The overall costs of IN and IAF orders will likely increase.


    @Hellfire
     
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    So on land we will have 94 TELs with 752 ready to fire missiles.
     
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    What about the new deal that was signed with isreal for 17000 crore? Range between 50 to 70 km. Delivery will begin by 2023. Can u shed some light on that?
     
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    5 Regiments with 40 TELs for Army.
     
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    Any reason why Army is not going for longer range? Will this be a new design?

    Thx bro
     
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    Would be MR SAM only.

    As for longer range, the ER Variant is under development , IN will surely get it.
     
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    The laboratories in the electronics and communication cluster have production orders worth ` 5,500 crore and programmes worth over ` 10,000 crore are on the anvil. Eight Medium Power S-Band Active Aperture Phased Array Radar, Arudhra, worth ` 800 crore, 18 Low Level Transportable Radar, Ashwini, worth ` 1,200 crore, and 55 S-band 3D Surveillance Radar, Bharani, worth ` 500 crore are under production. Three flight-worthy Synthetic Aperture Radar for ground imaging have been qualified. Prototype of AESA Radar for LCA has been validated on roof top. A 2 kW Directed Energy Laser Beam System has been integrated on to a Transportable Shelter and has been demonstrated successfully up to a range of 1 km against moving targets on the ground and in the air. Three numbers of LWIR Type 2 Super Lattice (T2SL) Detectors have been realized through M/s IIMC, Israel, by joint funding between DRDO and MoD, Israel. Based upon this detector, IRDE has realized a Thermal Imager. Laser fence developed by DARE is in operational deployment at its designated location and is working satisfactorily. DLRL has realised the ESM and CSM systems under the Samudrika programme for Navy and Air Force. SDR systems for the Navy has been developed and SDRs for other services are nearing completion.



    Akash, the surface-to-air missile has entered operational service with both Air Force and Army.

    Astra, a beyond-visualrange air-to-air missile (BVRAAM), is capable of engaging targets at varying range and altitudes allowing for engagement of both short-range (up to 20 km) and long-range (up to 80- 110 km) targets using alternative propulsion modes.


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