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Indian Navy Floats New Anti-Ship Missile Contest

Discussion in 'Indian Navy' started by Gessler, Aug 12, 2017.

  1. Agent_47

    Agent_47 Admin - Blog Staff Member MODERATOR

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    I'm talking about this particular 'Anti-ship missile' tender. Both are not the same thing, Land attack missiles don't need active seeker. Dual role missiles are relatively new development. Including brahmos land attack version.
     
  2. GSLV Mk III

    GSLV Mk III Captain FULL MEMBER

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    The tonnage is not mentioned in the NGC tender, it is only mentioned that the length should be less than 120 meter.

    So around 2500-3000 tonnes I guess.
     
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    Notsuperstitious 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    @Abingdonboy do you think these will find a place on our Kamorta class corvettes?

    I have found ALL indigenous ships rather lightly armed. The Kolkattas too, but Shivalik and Kamorta most so.

    Also do you think there is any weight in some people claiming these going on the OPVs? I would personally like the idea, a bit like how the Americans are increasing and spreading their firepower, even using air defence missiles for surface attack if required.

    OPVs, the GSL and RDEL types sure have the size and endurance to pose a threat to Chinese commercial shipping deep into IOR where they enjoy aircover from mainland. It also adds a lot of versatility to the OPV fleet. Imagine some 10 - 12 2000 plus tonnes ships available for anti shipping or land attack role (against PK) even if armed only with 8 light missiles. Definitely not specialists, but numbers matter too. In the current form these OPVs have no role in war.
     
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  4. Abingdonboy

    Abingdonboy Major Technical Analyst

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    I would say the chances were minimal, the Kamorta class corvettes are dedicated ASW assets, they have little need for AShMs.
     
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    Abingdonboy Major Technical Analyst

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    Again, the chances are no, the entire point of the OPVs/NOPVs is to be cheap and easy to maintain so as to release the larger assets to conduct more challenging ops. If you start addinc complex and costly systems onto the OPVs/NOPVs you make them entirely redundant as they will have less range and firepower than the larger frigates and destroyers but employed in similar roles.

    The OPVs/NOPVs have their own role, ASW corvettes their own role and the frigates/destroyers their own role, no point in giving them too much overlap and becoming a jack of all trades, master of none.
     
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    Notsuperstitious 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    I agree, but if just adding 8 light weight medium range missiles and sensors, without changing the OPVs peacetime role (albeit at a cost in endurance) gives a tremendous numbers advantage in wartime (particularly a two front war) then its worth it to have the option. I mean we are talking a dozen or so blue water modern hulls with endurance.

    You have to see how the americans are planning to use the RIM 67 missile for surface attack. Its obviously not their main surface attack weapon, but they are preparing for wartime deaperations. To me the OPV arming option is attractive.
     
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    Abingdonboy Major Technical Analyst

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    Everytime you add a complex weapon/sensor system there is not only a weight and cost penalty but availability penalty also- to service such systems the ships will have to be in dock more often and for longer periods furthermore to keep the qualifications relevent and crew proficient in employing the weapons/sensors time will have to be devouted to additonal training and re-training throughout the year- again taking the ship away from its main areas of responsibility.


    KISS- keep it simple stupid! The OPVs/NOPVs are no frills escort vessels with a very specific mission set bro, there's little point in trying to expand their remit as it will be at the cost of their core mission. The IN spelled out what they wanted; ships cheap to operate and build that could relieve their "heavy assets" from "trivial" roles (anti-pirace/escort duties) and they got it, end of story.


    I think what you are imaging is already being taken care of:



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Next_Generation_Missile_Vessels
     
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