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Indian navy's Delhi class destroyers discussion thread !!

Discussion in 'Indian Navy' started by Desi Jatt, May 28, 2010.

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  1. AVADI

    AVADI Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    ^^If the weight is less the fuel required to propel the missile would be saved and would it not increase the range more than 2% when the payload is reduced to 50% of intended.

    P.S. I am a noob at this subject so pardon my ignorance.
     
  2. jagjitnatt

    jagjitnatt Major ELITE MEMBER

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    The weight of a Brahmos missile is 3000 kgs, 3300 kg with payload
    The payload even if reduced to 150 kg, would make the total weight of missile around 3150 kgs.

    The difference of weight is just 4.5%. So you see it won't make a big difference.

    It does create a big difference in case of ballistic missile, because as the stages of the missile start falling, the contribution of the payload to the total weight keeps increasing. In the last phase the payload is almost 35-50% the weight of total stage. So the range increases in the ballistic missile.
     
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  3. gowthamraj

    gowthamraj Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Sir one thing i did't get. We have that technology. So why not we produce extended range with different name with other organisation like tata. Now private also allowed na
     
  4. jagjitnatt

    jagjitnatt Major ELITE MEMBER

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    The thing is that we don't have the technology as of yet.

    We can make a 2000 km cruise missile, but the question is,
    - will it be accurate
    - will it be reliable and not fall off half way in our territory
    - will it be deployable in time
    - will it work every time
    - what will be its payload and
    - will it strike with its kinetic energy or explosive power

    We at the moment can not deliver on all fronts. The long range missile project will only be feasible the day we will be able to deliver on all these fronts.

    Right now, even a 300 km missile is a challenge to us. It will still take us a decade or two to get that tech.
     
  5. Devianz

    Devianz 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    Barak 8 is good but the range is limited to 70kms. Even chinese air defence missile have a range of 200kms(saw some chinese guy bragging about it in PDF). Russian and american use 400-500km range missiles S to A missiles.

    Currently we dont have any anti-ship or surface attack missiles with a range of 300+ kms. We have to develop these on our own as we cannot buy these from abroad.
     
  6. Desi Jatt

    Desi Jatt Captain ELITE MEMBER

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    I think its HongQi 9
     
  7. jagjitnatt

    jagjitnatt Major ELITE MEMBER

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    Yeah, its hong qi, but chinese members usually hype this up a lot. Its real range is not 200 kms but just 125 kms
     
  8. Desi Jatt

    Desi Jatt Captain ELITE MEMBER

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    well, still agree with moon shadow, we are way behind in SAMs, affter akash and barak , we hardly have any S to A...trishul programme also was disaapointing. waiting for barak 2, but still that will be not more than 80km (dont know exact range).
     
  9. jagjitnatt

    jagjitnatt Major ELITE MEMBER

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    Our SAM programs till date have been short range quick reaction SAMs.

    We are working on newer version of Barak in a JV with Israel.
    Other than that we are also working on using Astra missile as a long range SAM. Although we don't have our own long range SAMs but we do have S-300 long range SAM from Russia.
     
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    Arjun MBT Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    Its one hell of a beast I must say.....
     
  11. gowthamraj

    gowthamraj Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Great project. I would happy if no delay
     
  12. Galaxy

    Galaxy Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    These three sleek and modern Indian destroyers in various stages of completion.

    Perhaps this appearance is deceiving, but when you look at the wider scene, you do ask yourself how they ever build such advanced vessels among the disorder and decay. :lol: :haha:


    [​IMG]
     
  13. Dilemma

    Dilemma Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    From what I read from recent articles, there is a delay in the development of the Barak-2 and the P-15s will only get inducted in 2012 and not somewhere in 2011 as it was previously stated.
     
  14. Galaxy

    Galaxy Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    Even 1st Kokatta Class Destroyer (INS Kolkatta) will be operational in 2012 only. Barak also late as per schedule.

    What is P-15s in 2012?
     
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    Dilemma Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    P-15 is the code name given for the first batch of Kolkata class destroyers.
     
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