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Indian Small Arms Thread

Discussion in 'Tactical Hardware' started by Gessler, May 20, 2017.

  1. Abingdonboy

    Abingdonboy Major Technical Analyst

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    IA selected the 5.56x30 JVPC over the AMOGH to replace their 9mm Sten carbines, OFB are only giving what IA said they wanted.
     
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    GuardianRED Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    This reporter is confusing me

    The JVPC/MSMC is DRDO? or built by OFB?
     
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    kaykay 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    OFB Trichy
     
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    Zer0reZ 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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  5. GSLV Mk III

    GSLV Mk III Captain FULL MEMBER

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    It's a JV between OFB & DRDO I think. Hence JVPC.
     
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    shaktimaan Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    The Modern Sub Machine Carbine (MSMC) is possibly the only weapon designed, developed and manufactured in India with a cult following among gamers across the world. The futuristic looking carbine-a compact weapon that fires smaller calibre rounds than an assault rifle-clearly caught the attention of the designers of Call of Duty.

    Since 2012, players of the franchise’s Black Ops II have had the DRDO-designed MSMC as one among five carbine options. No one is quite sure how the virtual version of the weapon showed up in American-produced pop culture. The actual weapon’s history, however, is somewhat chequered. It was developed by DRDO’s Pune-based Armaments Research and Development Establishment after the Army announced a contest in 2006 to replace all of its obsolete World War II era 9 mm carbines.

    The 5.56 mm MSMC has a 30-round magazine and can fire upto 900 rounds per minute. An indigenously-made holographic sight with an inbuilt red-dot laser pointer allows for accurate aiming up to the weapon’s 200 metre effective range, making it ideal for use in confined urban spaces. The weapon is produced by state-owned ordnance factories and is close to meeting the army’s rigorous testing standards. As the DRDO-OFB combine wait for the Army order, they have decided to offer the carbine to the police and paramilitary forces.

    Their optimism is not unfounded. Police forces are looking to modernise WWII era weapon inventories. Imports are not just expensive, but also subject to controls by host nations- German manufacturer Heckler and Koch has repeatedly cited human rights violations by Indian security forces as reason to deny exports. The Chhattisgarh police became the first to order the weapon this year-640 of them-with similar orders expected from the Madhya Pradesh, Delhi and Meghalaya police. India’s paramilitary forces are another potential buyer. Its designers estimate the firearm has the potential to replace nearly 400,000 obsolete weapons, an order worth over Rs 45,000 crore (including ammunition).

    “We have the production capacity to make around 35,000 such carbines each year,” says H.R. Dixit, general manager, Small Arms Factory (SAF), Kanpur. This Indian carbine’s transition from virtual to real could prove to be a potential game changer.

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  7. Agent_47

    Agent_47 Admin - Blog Staff Member MODERATOR

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    INSAS in Arma 2.
     
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    shaktimaan Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    lol....how is the gun in the game?
     
  9. Abingdonboy

    Abingdonboy Major Technical Analyst

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    INSAS Excalibur (army rejected it but it is in use with many state police forces):

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    Abingdonboy Major Technical Analyst

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    Compared to the MP7:

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    JVPC is not far off just needs better iron sights and longer P-rail at 12 o'clock and 9/3 o'clock so attachments like flashlights can be added.


    MP-7 also has a more practical foldable foreward grip:

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    @Gessler
     
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    Gessler Mod MODERATOR

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    This is Sniper: Ghost Warrior 2....not Arma :biggthumpup:

    Only sniper rifles & handguns can be used by the player in SGW2, only some of the NPCs use INSAS.
     
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    In Uncharted : The lost legacy - the story take place in india - One the weapons used in this game is an INSAS , BUT unfortunately the design isn't exact
     
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    X95 pistol grip with traditional Tavor-style trigger guard -

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    X95 with custom trigger guard more akin to that of most other rifles (available from IWI) -

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    Allows for integration of certain grenade launchers like the IWI GL40 -

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    @Abingdonboy @Agent_47 @Hellfire

    Yeah, seems they modeled it after a 7.62 Galil AR/ARM.
     
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    Hellfire Devil's Advocate Staff Member MODERATOR

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    Hellfire Devil's Advocate Staff Member MODERATOR

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    Cancellations occurred under NDA and not under UPA-2, who had been retired by the time the execution came to fore. It is the NDA which has cancelled the orders due to single vendor situation. Army's job was over with finalization of the platform they wanted.

    The day you stop obfuscating the process and understand the difference between your own elucidated stages as earlier, you will understand that once the product is finalized, the price negotiations are started. It is at this juncture, that the MoD called it a no go as single vendor left.

    Please do not assume to teach me the process of vendor selection in army for equipment beyond the financial powers of the Officers as stratified. How do you think under ACSFP you have the best of equipment coming in while under Central procurement we are still farting? It is because the Army Commander is able to take a decision without oversight and has been empowered to procure critical equipment with necessary certification even in a single vendor situation.

    You mean to say Assault Rifles are not critical equipment?

    Difference between having the balls to do the job and doing the job is tremendous. The phrase is typical Pakistani phrase of PDF variety.

    Only problem is, the denial mode comes to fore.
     
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